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Just another question;  I have a retirement visa valid until June 2021, which I hope to use again.  if I enter Thailand on one of these STV, will my retirement visa be cancelled, and how would I get another retirement visa?

I am still not convinced that STV is a genuine scheme.  Seems more like something floated by Thailand to give the impression they are sill open to visitors, but really do not want any to come.  From the postings here, I think that it is succeeding in the object.

Let's face it, most TV members are not part of the "super rich" group that today's BKP tells me are going to be encouraged to visit Thailand to restart the economy.

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STV sets new standard of stupidity. First up the travel bubbles. Then Phuket having Au and few other countries fly in. Bit funny at same time Au had serious issues covid wise.  Now this

If you have a Thai wife or family and are desperate to return here, then it may be worth jumping through all these hoops, but if all you're after is a bit of winter sunshine then forget about Thailand

Can see it is going to be popular and oversubscibed once they have finalised the details. People around the world are chomping at the bit to enter Thailand.

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9 minutes ago, Robin said:

Just another question;  I have a retirement visa valid until June 2021, which I hope to use again.  if I enter Thailand on one of these STV, will my retirement visa be cancelled, and how would I get another retirement visa?

I am still not convinced that STV is a genuine scheme.  Seems more like something floated by Thailand to give the impression they are sill open to visitors, but really do not want any to come.  From the postings here, I think that it is succeeding in the object.

Let's face it, most TV members are not part of the "super rich" group that today's BKP tells me are going to be encouraged to visit Thailand to restart the economy.

O visas do not get COEs currently so it would be an entry option, The more important question would be if you can roll into a new O without a border run. No idea on that one. You could probably roll over into an Elite though.

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1 hour ago, ernests said:

How much money would you guess this visa would cost me to the point when I have finished the ASQ quarantine??

 

Too lazy to do the digging:(

Agent: 10.700 baht

Visa 2.000 baht

Hotel: At the moment FROM 40.000 baht (depending on destination - in Phuket it is FROM 99.000 baht at the moment)

Covid-insurance: Depending on your start destination and how long you will stay. It may be included in your ordinary travel insurance.

Flight: We have no idea yet.

 

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2 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

O visas do not get COEs currently so it would be an entry option,

It depends upon what the non-o visa was issued for. For retirement no. Marriage, parent of a Thai, family members of those on non-b and certain non-ed visas it a possible.

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1 hour ago, farang51 said:

Agent: 10.700 baht

Visa 2.000 baht

Hotel: At the moment FROM 40.000 baht (depending on destination - in Phuket it is FROM 99.000 baht at the moment)

Covid-insurance: Depending on your start destination and how long you will stay. It may be included in your ordinary travel insurance.

Flight: We have no idea yet.

 

Under Section 3 there also seems to be a requirement to book a further 15 days accommodation AFTER quarantine:     "accommodation options and requirements after the 15 days quarantine (minimum stay of 15 days) [Total minimum stay of 30 days including the 15 day quarantine]"

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9 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

Under Section 3 there also seems to be a requirement to book a further 15 days accommodation AFTER quarantine:     "accommodation options and requirements after the 15 days quarantine (minimum stay of 15 days) [Total minimum stay of 30 days including the 15 day quarantine]"

 @ernests asked for expenses until leaving quarantine. Anyway, unless you want to sleep in a sleeping bag, you will have to pay to stay somewhere; be it a hotel, an apartment, with a girlfriend etc.

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16 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

Under Section 3 there also seems to be a requirement to book a further 15 days accommodation AFTER quarantine:     "accommodation options and requirements after the 15 days quarantine (minimum stay of 15 days) [Total minimum stay of 30 days including the 15 day quarantine]"

You are required to pre-book all accommodation for your entire stay in Thailand.

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12 minutes ago, farang51 said:

 @ernests asked for expenses until leaving quarantine. Anyway, unless you want to sleep in a sleeping bag, you will have to pay to stay somewhere; be it a hotel, an apartment, with a girlfriend etc.

Yah, but we aren't talking about a week long vacation.  They are requiring prepayment of accommodation, or at least a rental agreement for your entire stay of up to 9 months.  Who would book and pay for a place for so long before you have even seen it?  what if you don't like the place?  I think this requirement is worse than the 2 week quarantine requirement.

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3 minutes ago, Phillip9 said:

Yah, but we aren't talking about a week long vacation.  They are requiring prepayment of accommodation, or at least a rental agreement for your entire stay of up to 9 months.  Who would book and pay for a place for so long before you have even seen it?  what if you don't like the place?  I think this requirement is worse than the 2 week quarantine requirement.

OK for me as I can return to where Ive rented for the last 4 winters.

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What seems odd to me is that only 1200 people will be able to enter Thailand via STV Visa each month, but in order to apply for the Visa you have to make payments beforehand even when you don't even know if you will be approved or not..

 

3.      After receiving approval from the Thai Immigration Bureau, the applicant will have to pay the application fee and the company will send the applicant the STV Visa application form and the company will correspond with the applicant regarding

 

Please read it again. You must pay after receiving approval from IO. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Phillip9 said:

Yah, but we aren't talking about a week long vacation.  They are requiring prepayment of accommodation, or at least a rental agreement for your entire stay of up to 9 months.  Who would book and pay for a place for so long before you have even seen it?  what if you don't like the place?  I think this requirement is worse than the 2 week quarantine requirement.

I haven't seen that they requiere rental agreement for more than the first month; and I am sure they do not demand a rental agreement for more than 90 days. However, they may demand a rental agreement again when extending the stay for another 90 days.

 

Anyway, we still do not know all the details, we will probably know more in a week or two.

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1 hour ago, teacherclaire said:

What seems odd to me is that only 1200 people will be able to enter Thailand via STV Visa each month, but in order to apply for the Visa you have to make payments beforehand even when you don't even know if you will be approved or not..

 

3.      After receiving approval from the Thai Immigration Bureau, the applicant will have to pay the application fee and the company will send the applicant the STV Visa application form and the company will correspond with the applicant regarding

 

Please read it again. You must pay after receiving approval from IO. 

 

I think you have misunderstood..

 

I meant the expenses for the plane ticket, insurance, ASQ etc.

 

regarding the immigration bureau:

The Immigration Bureau only checks whether you have a criminal record. If you don't have a criminal record they send the approval to The LongStayCompany that they can continue with the procedure of making you ready to receive and then send documents to the Department of Consular Affairs, Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs to apply for the CoE (Certificate of Entry) and the STV Visa..

 

(part of the required documents are the proof that you have already purchased a plane ticket, insurance, ASQ etc. - this means that you spend money on something that you don't know whether you will be using because the Department of Consular Affairs, Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs will only choose 1200 people from all the people who will have applied for the Visa)

 

P. S. Please pardon me if I have mistaken in my explanation or understanding, this happens to me also

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