EU-bound trucks from UK could face two-day delays after Brexit, Britain says

[JonnyF]

This is simply a warning from Gove to wake people up to get their paperwork in order and to also expect some delays for the first couple of weeks.

 

Entirely predictable that the sore, bitter, moaning losers would jump all over it ????. No pain, no gain. It's lucky these Remainers aren't in charge of our country if they'd hand over our sovereignty/liberty to avoid some short term inconvenience.  

 

Reminds me of The Dead Kennedy's satirical album title, "Give me convenience OR give me death" ????.

 

 

[welovesundaysatspace]

6 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

I don't think it's possible to have those definites at this stage.

Of course, it would have been possible. That’s when you don’t put politics first. 

 

6 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

If it was possible they would have been provided. It's not in the government's interests to have businesses fail. 

The government’s interest is political, and businesses are collateral damage in that game. 
 

 

[Rookiescot]

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

This is simply a warning from Gove to wake people up to get their paperwork in order and to also expect some delays for the first couple of weeks.

 

Entirely predictable that the sore, bitter, moaning losers would jump all over it ????. No pain, no gain. It's lucky these Remainers aren't in charge of our country if they'd hand over our sovereignty/liberty to avoid some short term inconvenience.  

 

Reminds me of The Dead Kennedy's satirical album title, "Give me convenience OR give me death" ????.

 

 

Its just another example of the Brexit bonus.

"Cutting the EU red tape".

 

[OneMoreFarang]

How many years did they have time to prepare for this?

 

I just read an article about Dover. They are still waiting for the promised money which they need for all that new infrastructure which is supposed to be ready in 3 months. Amazing UK!

[englishoak]

Not sure whats more amazing the news cycle that still finds all manner of things to panic and make headlines about or the idiots that fall for the same old shtick and go off on the usual waaa waa waa... as usual it will work out.. the sky isnt going to fall in and never does... wont be happening so best the drama queens stop salivating it will, or look stupid ... again. 

 

 

[Rookiescot]

Applying for a permit to enter the newly formed Peoples Republic of Kent ????

 

 

[polpott]

14 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Someone really should have pointed this stuff out prior to the vote.

They did and the Brexiteers dismissed it as "project fear". Strange how the project fear chickens are now coming home to roost.

 

Remember the "extra 350 million a week for NHS" "Easiest deal ever" "soaring economy" "No more illegal immigrants"? Hmmmmm............

 

 

Edited September 24, 2020 by polpott

[Stargeezr]

Good thing for seaports and  ships and all.

[Proboscis]

11 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

To me it sounds like Gove is simply warning companies to prepare, make sure paperwork is in order and make any necessary procedural changes. If companies ignore the advice there will be hold ups. Why anti-Brexiters have to be such drama queens over simple advisory announcements I'll never know. 

Do you include the Conservative government as drama queens too? They are the ones who have bought a huge plot and changed the local planning laws so as to have a huge truck park at Ashford.

[grumpy 4680]

     Nothing wrong with Brexit, just return to the way it was before joining the EU. Never had this chaos then, so it goes to prove the EU is deliberetly making things difficult, like they promised if we tried to leave.

    No matter what, Brits still want out of the corrupt EU, and regain its own Independence.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, grumpy 4680 said:

     Nothing wrong with Brexit, just return to the way it was before joining the EU. Never had this chaos then, so it goes to prove the EU is deliberetly making things difficult, like they promised if we tried to leave.

    No matter what, Brits still want out of the corrupt EU, and regain its own Independence.

You don’t seem to understand that the quantity of traffic crossing the channel is a reflection of the integration of Business supply chains between the U.K. and the EU, something that did not exist back when Britain was the ‘sick man of Europe’.

 

 

[JonnyF]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Applying for a permit to enter the newly formed Peoples Republic of Kent ????

 

 

Just like the "800,000 job losses on a Vote to leave prediction" (not actually leaving), these predictions will be proven equally stupid once we've left the transition phase.

 

But I'm sure the bitter losers will deny their lies ever existed and create yet more long term predictions of doom to divert the attention away from the existing predictions that never came to pass.

 

It must be so depressing hoping to see your country fail and being consistently proven wrong 555. What a life!

[Rookiescot]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Just like the "800,000 job losses on a Vote to leave prediction" (not actually leaving), these predictions will be proven equally stupid once we've left the transition phase.

 

But I'm sure the bitter losers will deny their lies ever existed and create yet more long term predictions of doom to divert the attention away from the existing predictions that never came to pass.

 

It must be so depressing hoping to see your country fail and being consistently proven wrong 555. What a life!

https://smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/

 

They stopped counting at the end of January because it was impossible to differentiate between Brexit and corona. 

Still 436 000 jobs lost and we haven't even left yet.

[JonnyF]

6 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

https://smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/

 

They stopped counting at the end of January because it was impossible to differentiate between Brexit and corona. 

Still 436 000 jobs lost and we haven't even left yet.

What a load of nonsense that site is. 

 

Try checking REAL UK unemployment figures. See the huge spike after 2016? No, neither do I. Because there wasn't one.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

What a load of nonsense that site is. 

 

Try checking REAL UK unemployment figures. See the huge spike after 2016? No, neither do I. Because there wasn't one.

 

Interestingly you post a graph of percentages and not the actual numbers provided on the same site.

 

”Early indicators for August 2020 suggest that the number of employees in the UK on payrolls was down around 695,000 compared with March 2020.”

 

436,000 of these job losses occurred before end January.

[natway09]

Just another subject that the "non planners" did not even give a thought too.

Wait until the fishing industries start understanding just how it is going to be

[pagan1]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

This is simply a warning from Gove to wake people up to get their paperwork in order and to also expect some delays for the first couple of weeks.

 

Having proudly stated that the IT systems and facilities will be ready in JUly 2021 (whilst transition ends in Jan 2021) Gove now tells business to prepare for a system which has not been established, published or agreed. what planet is he on ???

 

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Reminds me of The Dead Kennedy's satirical album title, "Give me convenience OR give me death" ????.

 

 

In Gove we trust 

Great band the Dead Kennedys and one of the best gigs I went to was New Years eve in a warehouse in San Francisco 1981 with Anti Pasti & Flipper

[RuamRudy]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

This is simply a warning from Gove to wake people up to get their paperwork in order and to also expect some delays for the first couple of weeks.

 

Entirely predictable that the sore, bitter, moaning losers would jump all over it ????. No pain, no gain. It's lucky these Remainers aren't in charge of our country if they'd hand over our sovereignty/liberty to avoid some short term inconvenience.  

 

Reminds me of The Dead Kennedy's satirical album title, "Give me convenience OR give me death" ????.

 

 

Do you think Jello Biafra would be a Brexiteer? 

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Interestingly you post a graph of percentages and not the actual numbers provided on the same site.

 

”Early indicators for August 2020 suggest that the number of employees in the UK on payrolls was down around 695,000 compared with March 2020.”

 

436,000 of these job losses occurred before end January.

What on earth are you talking about?

 

The number on UK payrolls fell 695,000 from March 2020 to August 2020. But you think 436,000 of these were lost before January 2020? Couldn't see that little nugget anywhere on the site. If they were lost before January 2020, why were they still counted on UK payrolls in March 2020? That makes loads of sense 555.

 

If we're looking at job losses since March 2020 (which is what the site is doing) then it's clear that most of the world is suffering from mass unemployment due to Brexit, including Thailand. Who would have thought Brexit would have such wide reaching effects. Or is there something else that happened in March 2020 that may have caused this. Hmmmm, let me think for a moment. The job losses from March 2020 to August 2020 are due to Corona Virus or the vote to leave in 2016? That's a tough one ????.

 

You'll be blaming Brexit for 911 next.

 

Try harder.

[evadgib]

Given the urgency of traffic in the other direction I'll file this under 'Millennium bug's 21st Birthday' as that's all it will amount to.

[nauseus]

Strange that I can't find this story, or anything about the annexation of Kent, anywhere else.

 

Are they anywhere else?

[Chomper Higgot]

20 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

What on earth are you talking about?

 

The number on UK payrolls fell 695,000 from March 2020 to August 2020. But you think 436,000 of these were lost before January 2020? Couldn't see that little nugget anywhere on the site. If they were lost before January 2020, why were they still counted on UK payrolls in March 2020? That makes loads of sense 555.

 

If we're looking at job losses since March 2020 (which is what the site is doing) then it's clear that most of the world is suffering from mass unemployment due to Brexit, including Thailand. Who would have thought Brexit would have such wide reaching effects. Or is there something else that happened in March 2020 that may have caused this. Hmmmm, let me think for a moment. The job losses from March 2020 to August 2020 are due to Corona Virus or the vote to leave in 2016? That's a tough one ????.

 

You'll be blaming Brexit for 911 next.

 

Try harder.

“The number on UK payrolls fell 695,000 from March 2020 to August 2020. But you think 436,000 of these were lost before January 2020? “

 

That’s not at all what I said, try again.

 

 

“If we're looking at job losses since March 2020 (which is what the site is doing) “

 

Except we are not, the job losses being discussed are those resulting from Brexit.

 

Refer post #43 for 436,000 job losses before January.

 

If Gove is correct wrt delays at ports this too will work wonders for unemployment.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

30 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Given the urgency of traffic in the other direction I'll file this under 'Millennium bug's 21st Birthday' as that's all it will amount to.

Well you can hope Gove is wrong.

[JonnyF]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

“The number on UK payrolls fell 695,000 from March 2020 to August 2020. But you think 436,000 of these were lost before January 2020? “

 

That’s not at all what I said, try again.

 

 

“If we're looking at job losses since March 2020 (which is what the site is doing) “

 

Except we are not, the job losses being discussed are those resulting from Brexit.

 

Refer post #43 for 436,000 job losses before January.

 

If Gove is correct wrt delays at ports this too will work wonders for unemployment.

 

 

More nonsense. If we've lost 436,000 jobs due to the vote to leave (voting, NOT actually leaving) then why has unemployment been consistently decreasing since the vote in 2016?

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/279898/unemployment-rate-in-the-united-kingdom-uk/

 

Specifically from 4.9% in 2016 to 3.8% in 2019. The 800,000 job losses after the vote in 2016 never happened. It was another Remainer lie. Assuming you can read graphs, please see below for the official stats.

 

Also of interest is the increase in our first 10 years after joining in 1973. From 4% to 12%. Now that's an increase! Scotland beware (if they ever agree to take you).

 

[evadgib]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well you can hope Gove is wrong.

The sun will still rise on Jan 2nd,3rd,4th although the sea is always rough at that time of year...

[CG1 Blue]

3 hours ago, Proboscis said:

Do you include the Conservative government as drama queens too? They are the ones who have bought a huge plot and changed the local planning laws so as to have a huge truck park at Ashford.

The Ashford site is part of the planning for Brexit. So now planning is a bad thing? ????‍♂️

[candide]

@Chomper Higgot

@JonnyF

 

I think the differences between the number of jobs lost and the unemployment rate is due to the fact that smallbusinessprices.co only counts jobs lost, without taking into account the fact that some (most) people have found a job elsewhere.

It's different from unemployment rate, which is a balance between job lost and recruitment.

[polpott]

29 minutes ago, evadgib said:

The sun will still rise on Jan 2nd,3rd,4th although the sea is always rough at that time of year...

And where we go one we go all. Barking mate. Proper barking.

[RayC]

5 hours ago, englishoak said:

Not sure whats more amazing the news cycle that still finds all manner of things to panic and make headlines about or the idiots that fall for the same old shtick and go off on the usual waaa waa waa... as usual it will work out.. the sky isnt going to fall in and never does... wont be happening so best the drama queens stop salivating it will, or look stupid ... again. 

 

 

I'd suggest the idiots are those who continue to believe every word uttered by a government that continually fails to deliver e.g. easiest deal in history, 'world beating' track and trace apps, etc. 

 

Everything will 'work out' fine unless, of course, it doesn't.

[JonnyF]

8 minutes ago, candide said:

@Chomper Higgot

@JonnyF

 

I think the differences between the number of jobs lost and the unemployment rate is due to the fact that smallbusinessprices.co only counts jobs lost, without taking into account the fact that some (most) people have found a job elsewhere.

It's different from unemployment rate, which is a balance between job lost and recruitment.

Indeed. And so typical of Remainers to only include one side of the argument (jobs lost) without including all the jobs that replaced them which led to an overall decrease in unemployment % since the vote in 2016. They'll probably be back in 2024 when the number finally reaches 800,000, despite those 800,000 being replaced by 1,200,000 new jobs 555. "See, I told you the vote to leave would result in 800,000 job losses, is this what you voted for?" ????

 

A bit like RookieScot claiming that tariffs on goods from the UK to the EU is great for the EU ("free money" for the EU in his opinion), but simultaneously proclaiming that tariffs on goods going the other direction is an absolute disaster for UK consumers ????.

 

You gotta love 'em.