humdrumdays Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Our 16 year old son has Aussie and Thai citizenship. Born in Aus, Thai mother and we all live in Thailand. He would like to renounce his Thai nationality to avoid army draft or "lodor" (army cadet thing). Has anyone any experience/ideas about this? Long term he still wants to live and work in Thailand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackdd Posted September 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, humdrumdays said: He would like to renounce his Thai nationality to avoid army draft or "lodor" (army cadet thing). Has anyone any experience/ideas about this? Long term he still wants to live and work in Thailand. Renouncing Thai nationality sounds like a stupid idea in this case. There are alternatives to the regular military service, i would suggest he just looks the options up on Google. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humdrumdays Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 What options? haven't seen any. not even money offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 No experience, but he would want to think about how he jumps through the Immigration hoops once he is no longer a Thai national. IMO he should check out buying exemption, I gather it's quite common here for the more well-heeled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfHuy Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Become a monk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Does he really want to get onto the work permit and B-Visa/extension bandwagon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evermaat Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 if you join Australian military or are otherwise out of the country, doesn't this mean you cannot join Thai military simultaneously? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 There is an age limit - this is the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blackcab Posted September 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 He would have to wait until he's 20, but long term, that's a really bad plan. The reason being once he renounced his citizenship, he would have no right of abode in Thailand, no right to work, no right to own land, no right to be self employed and no right to apply for licenses and permits or carry on an occupation reserved for Thai nationals only. If he wants to live and work in Thailand as a Thai citizen then he will have to accept that citizenship comes with obligations as well as privaledges. Perhaps you can help him find the easiest way through this, such as cadets. If he is academically minded and gets a degree, his time can be reduced to as little as 6 months if he volunteers. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 50 minutes ago, humdrumdays said: What options? haven't seen any. not even money offers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_Defense_Student Somebody who did this for a certain amount of time (according to Wikipedia 80 hours per year, no idea how many years are required), is afaik exempt from regular military service. He could sign up for a regular job within the army (army nurse, or whatever), then he doesn't have to do the dumb<deleted>. I've heard somewhere that while he studies at a university he will also not be conscripted, so going to work abroad for a few years after finishing university, and coming back to Thailand once he turns 30 might be another option. He could volunteer to join, then it's just 6 months, compared to 2 years if he loses the lottery. Of course these are wasted 6 months, but better than wasting Thai citizenship if wanting to live in Thailand. There are probably more options, this is just what i learned randomly while being in Thailand, let him Google for options in Thai. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Quite a few young men dress up as the opposite gender and sashay into the recruitment office in a mini-skirt. Might be worth a try if he doesn't want to do a couple of hours a week in the cadet scheme. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFreqFlyer Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Anyway, being 4 years out from the draft, rest easy. I'd suggest he goes to live in Australia until he's 30 or the obligation no longer applies due to a change of law. Or he can buy his way out for a few tens of thousands of Baht, or follow any of the other methods suggested. It's nothing much to worry about, especially not now. I avoided a draft in one of my nationalities (actually, the only one which still has an obligation) by living abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Bone spurs work in some places. How about flat feet? Bone spurs? Amazon.com can provide? Australians so desire the " American" dream ! Anything is for sale ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 "He would like to renounce his Thai nationality to avoid army draft or "lodor" (army cadet thing)." "Long term he still wants to live and work in Thailand." So basically he wants to have his cake and eat it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleP Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 He should do the army cadets to avoid military call up. My ex students told me they could pay a little to do nothing at Friday cadets. Renouncing citizenship will mean visas, work permits and protected professions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 20 hours ago, jackdd said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_Defense_Student Somebody who did this for a certain amount of time (according to Wikipedia 80 hours per year, no idea how many years are required), is afaik exempt from regular military service. He could sign up for a regular job within the army (army nurse, or whatever), then he doesn't have to do the dumb<deleted>. That is correct, you have to ask the school if they have this program, as not all schools have it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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