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18 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Who on earth thinks she is actually "getting with" that guy? There is no way they are sexually active, together. I am sure that is part of the deal she worked out with him. 

Rather distasteful thing to say. Just because you don't find him attractive doesn't mean some women do.

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28 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

About on par with previous events. Six or seven officers killed, and a few hundred injured. Not alot. The police in the US have been largely behaving in an abusive fashion for decades now, and it is much worse in the past 20 years, since the massive militarization of the cops. Some pushback had to be expected. Not advocating it. Just observing. 

 

 

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New York Post - More than 700 officers injured in George Floyd protests across US

 

That was as of June 8th, 2020.  The nationwide riots had just begun in earnest.

 

Law Officer site stated it best:  Race is such a topic of conversation that people have forgotten the most important missing element. The factor that is conspicuously absent, whether it is police abuse, racism, rioting etc., is HUMANITY. Where has it gone?

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4 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

Yes, wrong, only in jest, Xi is President for life - a fact. Everyone has a motivation for their posts. Another fact.

Trump jests? How do u know. Ever seen him laugh?

 

Funny how after over 20,000 lies they are just jests.

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2 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

He's recruited 600+ lawyers.

 

USA Today - 'If it's close – watch out': Biden says he has 600 lawyers ready to fight election 'chicanery' by Trump

 

The entirety of the Dems and MSM are claiming with a unified voice that Trump plans to steal the election and this article purports the reason for Biden's 600 lawyers is to prevent that.  All without any concrete evidence that Trump intends to steal the election.

 

It's simply a narrative, that's all it is.  It's purpose is clear.  To make people believe it's "real" when in fact if there's any evidence at all to suggest election stealing it points to the Dems.

 

 

A few posts ago you linked to a clip (edited, misleading) pushing the same rubbish. The first sentence in the description of the clip is "Hillary Clinton says Democrats are going to try to steal the election" (which, of course, she doesn't) - but do go on about blaming others for what you intend to do and all that.

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1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

New York Post - More than 700 officers injured in George Floyd protests across US

 

That was as of June 8th, 2020.  The nationwide riots had just begun in earnest.

 

Law Officer site stated it best:  Race is such a topic of conversation that people have forgotten the most important missing element. The factor that is conspicuously absent, whether it is police abuse, racism, rioting etc., is HUMANITY. Where has it gone?

Ask the black people.

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2 hours ago, Nout said:

Hilary Clinton has told Biden to ignore the election results if he loses and never cede to Trump. But that's ok I guess.

 

What she actually said (not in the edited version, that is) was that Biden should not immediately concede before votes are counted and it becoming undeniable he lost. There was not all out call as claimed. Roger Stone now, that's another matter:

 

Roger Stone to Donald Trump: bring in martial law if you lose election

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/13/roger-stone-to-donald-trump-bring-in-martial-law-if-you-lose-election

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41 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

For four years the Dems have rejected the results of the 2016 election (while simultaneously and hypocritically aghast that Trump would even ponder it) and have done everything within their power, legally or illegally, to subvert that election result.  Four years on and their entire campaign for the 2020 election is focused on one issue and one issue only . . . to remove President Trump.

 

Anyone actually believing that they would be voting for Biden are deluded.  For it will be President Harris in very short order.  Under no circumstances would I want a Harris presidency.

 

Vox - Kamala Harris’s decline in the polls, explained

 

She had a single high point during her candidacy yet within 5 months of that she was polling in single digits and dropped out.  The Dems rejected her then but will vote for her now.  Why?  Doesn't matter who it as as long as they can remove President Trump.

Can you quote anyone from the Democrats leadership who have made such a statement?

That the statement is true is beyond question.  What more evidence than the past four years do you need?

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1 hour ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

It would take too long to go through all these points. I am from Australia.

On Covid it is absolutely China's fault and Trump did OK for a month or so. But then he consistently downplayed it, saying it would go away, hindering the CDC. To this day he is holding dangerous rallies with huge crowds close together not wearing masks. Breathtakingly irresponsible.

On climate change I get that it is hard to find a perfect solution but his view is do nothing or worse ramp up CO2 production. He's comment last week that the world will just get cooler, like the Coronavirus will just go away, is sad and predictable. 

review US CO2 over say the last 5 years. See latest models. See judithcurry.com for serious debate on this issue. By debate I mean from both sides of the issue. I appreciate your comments on the matter (climate change)  Thank you.

 

Regarding COVID Trump has never "hindered" the CDC, it was the CDC that gave mixed signals about this COVID along with the Surgeon general of the USA. Again, I am not sure why you would have concern about this - instead I would focus on your own Country. I am not convinced lockdowns or masks are what stops the spread of COVID, despite currently residing in Thailand where everyone is masked. I am not a believer that the reason for a lack of spread in Thailand is down to that factor alone because it does not make any sense. I suspect genetic differences, other immunities that are local etc. I can't figure it out. In any event right next door it is blowing up. As Thailand had literally achieved zero I am perplexed at how they are going to react now that the only way to go from here is not down but up. Early on the idea of lockdowns was to achieve a situation in which the hospitals were not overwhelmed, somehow eradication of covid entirely is now the goal? What if the vaccine does not achieve a high rate of immunity? Flue vaccines only reach 50% effectiveness in some years. You expect to stay locked down forever. Is this the new normal? I prefer thinking that heard immunity will eventually be achieved. It seems to work elsewhere.

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2 hours ago, Damual Travesty said:

The entire argument about the Supreme Court seems to come down to one issue alone: The potential that a Supreme Court leaning conservative may overturn ROE V WADE. I am of the belief that even a very conservative court would not do that, but that they may limit the scope of ROE. But that is not what the Democrats or even some Republicans believe.

 

Either way I do suppose it comes down to decency as the issue. Some believe that it is not decent to abort children. The reality of which are primarily black and brown children. While others believe this is a decent thing to do. All a matter of ones view of morality I suppose I am not going to attempt to debate one side or the other but the poster is correct. It does come down to decency in that regard.

 

As for the mechanics of it all, the Constitution of the USA is quite clear the President submits his nominee and the Senate can consent or not consent. Lucky for Donald J Trump the party that holds the Senate at this time - happens to be his own.  The decent thing for them to do is to approve the President's pick as they are holding their office because their conservative constituents put them there to do precisely that. To do otherwise would be a violation of the trust of the voters who put them in office and definitely not a decent thing to do.

 

No, the entire argument about the Supreme Court does not come down to one issue. That your own point of view, and it is at odds with many comments posted on here and views expressed elsewhere. That you ignore them is yet another example of the mindset who claims to value the constitution, but expresses disregard for others' views.

 

Obviously, the comment had nothing much to do with the bogus bit of nonsense and deflection on offer. That you cannot address it in the sense and level in which it was aired is totally expected.

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30 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

At the showing of a casket? Buddy, the moral compass. We all have one. Just saying.  As for Trump rarely going out into public. He is the most open to the Public President in decades and "Come on man" even before Covid Joe Biden could not beg people to show up at his events. We both know that.

 

I do not ask you to respect the President of the United States but respect the fact that there is a time and a place for staged protests. In front of a casket is not one of them. Be respectful have common decency - common decency.

 

And can you and your Democrat friends just calm down and let the President do the ROUTINE? Which is to fill a vacancy on the Court? And because the Senate is likewise controlled by his Party they have the pick to confirm.  Enough already. This is nothing new in our system its been going on for 250 years. Can you and your friends stop threatening to pack the court, do away with the electoral college, lower the age to vote, etc etc etc all as means to obtain permanent power?! Doing away with our foundations will not help our Country.

No. We won't. If the GOP felt that with 9 months to go for the election, the nation should wait for the election, what has changed since then? With five weeks to go? Break that one down, if you can.

 

And if the GOP insists on defying the wish of the majority of Americans, we will pack the court. I suggest five more justices once Biden takes Trump to the cleaners in November. Fair is fair. 

 

Remember what Graham said. A man should be held to his word. A real man, anyway. 

 

And in terms of what you refer to as common decency, why does that apply to people jeering Trump, but not to Trump himself? Break that one down, please. The great RBG would get a kick out of people showing Trump what they think of him. 

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2 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Whether she's relevant or not isn't the point being made.  The point is that no one on the left condemns her for saying it.  Lord help you if you can't see the hypocrisy and bias.

 

 

No one condemns her because she haven't said anything controversial. The full version of the interview makes it clear. All she said was not to rush and concede before it's absolutely positive Biden lost.

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2 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

My Aunt Marge has opinions too but she isn't Joe Biden.

Most of what Hillary says make sense but I agree that one sentence is not good. You have to pick out one sentence from Hillary, possibly out of context as it is not fully explained,  as against many clear direct statements from Trump.

I was a Hillary fan. Still don't get why Americans hated her.

There is a difference though between someone  outside the current process making a one off comment and the president himself continually saying it. Joe Biden is the leader. Compare the leaders. 

I must say the latest Fox News polls are looking good for Biden. Here's hoping.

 

You are right. The HRC comment posted was edited. The full version is nowhere as controversial as the usual suspects huff and puff about.

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18 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

New York Post - More than 700 officers injured in George Floyd protests across US

 

That was as of June 8th, 2020.  The nationwide riots had just begun in earnest.

 

Law Officer site stated it best:  Race is such a topic of conversation that people have forgotten the most important missing element. The factor that is conspicuously absent, whether it is police abuse, racism, rioting etc., is HUMANITY. Where has it gone?

Good question. And the real question is, has this current president lowered the bar, with his division, constant hatred, juvenile taunts and extreme lack of dignity, grace, compassion and kindness? Humanity and Trump do not co-exist within the same sentence. 

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12 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

What she actually said (not in the edited version, that is) was that Biden should not immediately concede before votes are counted and it becoming undeniable he lost. There was not all out call as claimed. Roger Stone now, that's another matter:

 

Roger Stone to Donald Trump: bring in martial law if you lose election

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/13/roger-stone-to-donald-trump-bring-in-martial-law-if-you-lose-election

Even at snopes they quote it like this:

 

Stone: I don’t want to overplay the facts here, but if someone will study the president’s authority in the Insurrection Act and in his ability to apply — impose — martial law if there’s widespread [inaudible, might be “cheating”], he will have the authority to arrest Mark Zuckerberg, to arrest Tim Cook, to arrest the Clintons, to arrest anybody else who can be proven to be involved in illegal activity. 

 

Sounds like he is saying that someone should study if the President has Authority under the Insurrection act to impose martial law IF there is widespread [sic] cheating, to arrest anyone PROVED involved in illegal activity.

 

From Roger Stone legal expert in a call in show. Are you worried about this seriously???

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23 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Rather distasteful thing to say. Just because you don't find him attractive doesn't mean some women do.

Distasteful? Why, because he is the president? Look at him! It required a total renegotiation of their deal, for her to even hold his hand occasionally, in public. Have you seen her body language towards him? 

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2 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Then where is the proof that Trump is stealing the election?  If there's no evidence then why hire 600 lawyers?  Think.

 

Trump called on supporters to vote twice. That's bound to cause some issues right there. Further messing with the Postal Service will account for others. Allegations of intimidation, irregularities and fraud are a part of any elections, so given the stakes and margins, best come prepared. Seeing as this is not the first time such arguments are aired, let me outline how these often pan out - Trump supporters whine when the Democrats do this or that, Trump supporters ridicule Democrats when something isn't done or addressed. Having it both ways is a trademark, by now.

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52 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Who on earth thinks she is actually "getting with" that guy? There is no way they are sexually active, together. I am sure that is part of the deal she worked out with him. 

She has a stand-in for that

LAURA BENANTI at Late Show with Stephen Colbert 11/19/2018 ...

 

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16 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

To insinuate that it's Trump's fault couldn't be more disingenuous.  It's such an outrageous claim that few would even consider it.  I doubt that even hard core far left libs believe it.

Theres no thought process involved , they just blame Trump for everything bad that happens .

LOL, it was Trumps fault for the booing at the funeral , because if he hadnt of been there they wouldnt have booed  

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1 hour ago, Damual Travesty said:

Another simple insult post against the President of the USA which really adds to the flavour of this board and must do wonders to increase usage.

 

Says a poster who's got no issues with the President dishing insults, or indeed indulging himself in such. Or maybe it's just POTUS/Trump that deserve immunity from this?

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