Protesters scuffle with police at London anti-lockdown demo

[tribalfusion001]

6 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Excellent video, TeaMonkey.  To ask a question of those who argue the case of lockdowns, mask wearing, etc., ridicule those who want to get on with life, and espouse the doomsday nature of this virus have any of you watched this video?  And if you have what's your response?  Would sincerely like to get that response.

You won't get a sensible reply from them as the issue is too polarized and a lot of them have been brainwashed by the MSM coverage.

[johng]

The second wave.

[patman30]

On 9/27/2020 at 1:30 PM, polpott said:

Or show their own covidiocy more like. Morons who have no consideration for the lives of others.

"Others" is the new "Me"
????

[tribalfusion001]

15 minutes ago, johng said:

The second wave.

Exactly.

[patman30]

1 hour ago, polpott said:

Check out the UK and US. Its far from over. Check out the charts. The number of new cases globally is still rising exponentially.

According to the WHO
80% of positive cases TO DATE are mild or Asymptomatic cases
"data to date suggest that 80% of infections are mild or asymptomatic, 15% are severe infection, requiring oxygen and 5% are critical infections, requiring ventilation. "
(testing positive from an amplified test)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_4

"CDC estimates asymptomatic cases are 75 percent as infectious as symptomatic ones"
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/07/why-do-asymptomatic-coronavirus-cases-even-happen-cvd/

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

 

Also
during the Covid19 Period
The global population has INCREASED by over 60 Million
https://www.worldometers.info/

 

Any excessive deaths which count higher than predicitive models
do not take into account the fact the hospitals were closed to many that needed treatment during this time????

Edited September 28, 2020 by patman30

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

13 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

Here in the US, the death rate is pretty much middle of the pack in terms of death per 100K.

 

No, it's not... How about instead, the U.S. is staying right around the top 10 rank of CV deaths per 100,000 population by country, as it has throughout much of the pandemic. And the UK is just a little bit worse than the U.S., on a per capita basis.

 

 

 

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

Edited September 28, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

Excellent video, TeaMonkey.  To ask a question of those who argue the case of lockdowns, mask wearing, etc., ridicule those who want to get on with life, and espouse the doomsday nature of this virus have any of you watched this video?  And if you have what's your response?  Would sincerely like to get that response.

 

Significantly rising case count...  but not deaths, as yet.

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-21..latest&country=~GBR&region=World&casesMetric=true&interval=smoothed&hideControls=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=desc

 

 

Edited September 28, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[GinBoy2]

The trouble is this is so hard to define cause, effect and impact.

 

We're lucky we live in a State where the death rate is 27/100k, very low.

 

But I'm also aware that based on averages that means for other States its appalling.

 

Then you have to balance the impact to peoples lives.

 

Now I'd suggest that for the average TVF member, the demographic probably doesn't mind a lockdown, they aren't working and probably not relying on work to make ends meet, and so for them it's just the right thing to do.

 

But for the young, students, working age adults lockdowns are devastating, both in terms of livelihood and social development

 

I really don't how you can measure what the correct level of restrictions should be, but devastating an entire generation doesn't seem right or fair