Badrabbit Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Recently had a blood test which has shown my Tryglycerides at 331, normal is 150, very high 500, I dont understand why mine is high, I exercise 1 hr per day a lot of the time 2 hrs per day fast walking, I'm 89kgs 190cm height, 64 yrs old, should I be concerned and make a big effort to reduce this, do some people have high Triglycerides which is never a problem or is it a problem to be concerned about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 where did you have the test? I had one a couple of years ago in bkk that had a few highs including this. Went home had all the tests again which came up with no problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Triglycerides affected most by carbohydrates and sugar. Cut back and continue exercise and it will drop Also high doses of fish oil (2 or 3x) label dosages will also lower triglycerides Edited September 27, 2020 by tonray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 one meal a day ... skip breakfast and if you can later, lunch ... one meal a day stop eating sugar, fructose drinks, etc... check again in 3 months 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottinger Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 There's still a good deal of disagreement worldwide on this topic. A doctor would almost certainly recommend you start taking statins, others might say such a cure is worse than the problem. It's a fact that lipids are necessary to your health and that the body itself manufactures them, clearly to excess in some cases. Modern medicine tends to take a one-size-fits-all approach to 'elevated levels', which themselves are sometimes revised as research progresses. Reading 'information' on the Internet only serves to confuse with conflicting opinion, but most researchers would agree that the causes of raised levels are complex, involving perhaps environment, lifestyle, diet and hereditary factors, among others, and that modifying said factors will, over time, help to bring your three types of lipid more into healthy balance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedemon Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 As already said cut all refined carbohydrates and Triglycerides will drop like a stone. As opposed to HDL/LDL which fluctuate much more slowly, Triglycerides levels can vary quite a lot in a single day. 3-4 days on a zero to low carb/high saturated fat diet might well halve a score of 331. Of course it will go right back up again if you resume the carbs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badrabbit Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 38 minutes ago, Orton Rd said: where did you have the test? I had one a couple of years ago in bkk that had a few highs including this. Went home had all the tests again which came up with no problems Had the test done at Bangkok(Siroji) Phuket, went for PSA blood test the doc did more, PSA 0.441 so all good there, I avoid Sugar and try to a avoid bad fat but food and its contents just baffles me, I will try the one meal a day and see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Other factors to consider; - Smoking - genetic predisposition - other medications - testing error - diet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Much matters on the proper fasting period prior to the blood sample being drawn. Some medical workers will tell you this is not important. Also it seems to matter what you eat the day before. I was once cautioned about high cholesterol in my younger days. Before doing the test they told me that what I eat the day before the test doesn't matter, as the test looks at "the big picture." Ok, so the day before I supped at KFC. The doctors were worried about the numbers, and I convinced them to do the test again. Two weeks later with my normal eating routine and the numbers were relatively good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, tonray said: Also high doses of fish oil (2 or 3x) label dosages will also lower triglycerides There is some controversy about the efficacy of fish oil. It is also a triglyceride, the difference being in the omega-3 fatty acid moiety. While there's plenty of stuff on Google with claims, the more authoritative sources have divided opinions. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS014067361060445X/fulltext Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Badrabbit said: should I be concerned and make a big effort to reduce this I'm 82kgs, 183cm height, 60 yrs old, my TG's are 45mg/dl Edited September 27, 2020 by 4MyEgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) posted wrong place. Edited September 27, 2020 by jvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 High triglyceridea are indeed a risk. What were the rest of the lipid panel (HDL, LDL) and your fasting glucose or Hb1Ac? And when did you last have your triglycerides measured, with what results? Do you smoke? There is a fairly common genetic condition that leads to elevated trigs but usually the LDL would also be high. If HDL, LDL and glucose were all normal, you don't smoke and prior trig levels were also normal then the first thing I would do is repeat the test at a different lab (such as https://www.andalab.net/health_check_up/programs/) Lab errors are not unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badrabbit Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Sheryl said: High triglyceridea are indeed a risk. What were the rest of the lipid panel (HDL, LDL) and your fasting glucose or Hb1Ac? And when did you last have your triglycerides measured, with what results? Do you smoke? There is a fairly common genetic condition that leads to elevated trigs but usually the LDL would also be high. If HDL, LDL and glucose were all normal, you don't smoke and prior trig levels were also normal then the first thing I would do is repeat the test at a different lab (such as https://www.andalab.net/health_check_up/programs/) Lab errors are not unknown. LDL Cholesterol s1 unit 3 Cholesterol 214 Cholesterol s1 unit 5.5 Triglyceride 325 HDL CHolesterol 38 HDL Cholesterol s1 0.98 LDL Cholesterol 110 Triglycerides s1 unit 4 Glucose Glucose fastingxs1 unit 5.38 Glucose fasting 97 I dont smoke. Test done 2 yrs ago thing triglyc was about 303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badrabbit Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: I'm 82kgs, 183cm height, 60 yrs old, my TG's are 45mg/dl I'm no doc, how on earth do you manage to get 45, do you eat virtually nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Lacessit said: There is some controversy about the efficacy of fish oil. It is also a triglyceride, the difference being in the omega-3 fatty acid moiety. While there's plenty of stuff on Google with claims, the more authoritative sources have divided opinions. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS014067361060445X/fulltext I've actually done it successfully at one point. Dropped trigs like a rock. I didn't continue only because it made me burp with fish breath. When I stopped trigs elevated again. But dietary changes fixed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 All you beer drinkers need to stop! Start drinking Muscat and Single Malt whisky. That worked for my grandfather who lived till he was 91. He never gave me a reason why he cut back on the cigars though ....maybe that's why he didn't make 92??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Badrabbit said: I'm no doc, how on earth do you manage to get 45, do you eat virtually nothing? From my 14 April 2020 blood tests: 1 Glucose Plasma 103 a little high (pre-diabetic) 2 Cholesterol Serum 110 3 Triglyceride Serum 45 a little low ? 4 HDL.C Serum 57 5 LDL-C (Direct) Serum 42 6 Serum lron Serum 137 7 TIBC Serum 309 I Transferrin Saturation Serum 44 9 ferritin Serum 300.2 It might have to do with eating clean, exercising and taking statins after having a stent put in when I suffered a heart attack 12 years back ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Badrabbit said: I avoid Sugar and try to a avoid bad fat but food and its contents just baffles me, I will try the one meal a day and see if that helps. If I can suggest you look at Dr Berg's video's on Youtube, he has a world of knowledge and explains things so clear and easy to understand. The one meal a day and intermitting fasting will help, but wouldn't take it on until you ease yourself into his video's (Keto Diet) first. I am not on Keto, but do some intermitting fasting in the mornings, but listening to what foods to avoid and what to eat does help, but the carbs refined processed foods are killing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Badrabbit said: LDL Cholesterol s1 unit 3 Cholesterol 214 Cholesterol s1 unit 5.5 Triglyceride 325 HDL CHolesterol 38 HDL Cholesterol s1 0.98 LDL Cholesterol 110 Triglycerides s1 unit 4 Glucose Glucose fastingxs1 unit 5.38 Glucose fasting 97 I dont smoke. Test done 2 yrs ago thing triglyc was about 303 OK so your triglycerides have been high for a while. Your LDL is also elevated and your HDL is too low. While you may have a genetic predisposition towards dyslipidemia, I don't think your diet can be that healthy given these numbers. You can redress this by: Eating more fish, especially oily fish like mackeral and tuna Taking fish oil supplements Avoiding processed foods of all types (very important!) Eating more whole grains, beans and legumes, and nuts Consuming more fiber -- oatmeal is very good as of course are fresh vegetables and fruits I would try these measures first for a few months and repeat the labs. If still elevated trig and LDL might have to consider meds but try diet first. No need to limit to one meal a day especially since you are not overweight to begin with, and a shift towards the foods mentioned (and away form any processed foods) will likely reduce your caloric intake a bit anyhow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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