Morch Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, stevenl said: I don't think there are financial incentives there, except maybe permission for a Trump tower or so. I think the decision to move the embassy was made because his son in law said so, and he doesn't care. With the Ambassador sorta relocating to Jerusalem, someone by the name of Adelson bought the previous ambassador's residence for a nice price. Now, I'm not saying it was a motivation for the move, which was mostly political. Rebuilding the embassy itself is a big deal, and, of course, the old one is major value as well. Having the inside track means a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Morch said: With the Ambassador sorta relocating to Jerusalem, someone by the name of Adelson bought the previous ambassador's residence for a nice price. Now, I'm not saying it was a motivation for the move, which was mostly political. Rebuilding the embassy itself is a big deal, and, of course, the old one is major value as well. Having the inside track means a lot of money. Possibly just given first refusal for a "market" price. Liquidating redundant assets , sensible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Possibly just given first refusal for a "market" price. Liquidating redundant assets , sensible Adelson is one of Trump's campaign major donors. Just coincidence, then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I think the amazing part is that there are still many millions of Americans who still didn't see a reason why they should not vote for Trump. I am sure I could count at least a hundred reasons and it shouldn't be difficult to list another hundred or more. Will his tax records change anything? Does anybody who supported him for 4 years through all those many many scandals will finally wake up and not support him anymore? It's like banging someone hundred times on the head. Will the 101st bang make a difference? I have my doubts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, Morch said: Adelson is one of Trump's campaign major donors. Just coincidence, then? Oh the cynicism we encounter ???? Not an uncommon name really. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said: I think the amazing part is that there are still many millions of Americans who still didn't see a reason why they should not vote for Trump. I am sure I could count at least a hundred reasons and it shouldn't be difficult to list another hundred or more. Will his tax records change anything? Does anybody who supported him for 4 years through all those many many scandals will finally wake up and not support him anymore? It's like banging someone hundred times on the head. Will the 101st bang make a difference? I have my doubts. You cant fix stupid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 An off-topic post that was also directed at another forum member has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barmbeker Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Walker88 said: Since I'm assuming you have no experience in intelligence and have never held a security clearance, I will try to explain why it is of great significance. Before anyone is granted a security clearance, particularly something like TS/SCI, a thorough background investigation is carried out to try to uncover if there is any compromising information in one's background. Debt levels are part of that. (A POTUS automatically gets a security clearance without any background check, so 45 would have avoided such an official investigation, unless something disconcerting came up in the normal course of intel collection, e.g., hearing foreign individuals discussing him). The reason debt is a concern, and high debt normally disqualifies, is that it gives the lender leverage. The lender can threaten to call loans unless the borrower does something the lender seeks. The source of the funds is also of great import, because a foreign entity could have enormous leverage over someone by virtue of the debt. 45 runs a highly leverage enterprise. He has made foreign policy moves that make no sense to anyone (e.g., allowing Turkey to take control of Syrian lands where Peshmerga Kurdish allies of the US, but who are an enemy of Turkey, were present. Subsequent info revealed that 45's company was then granted licenses for business and construction in Turkey. It's a very bad optic, if nothing else.) 45 has known funding from China of at least $30 million. Other funding comes from Deutsche Bank, albeit via SIVs (Special Investment Vehicles), which are off-balance sheet entities and where Deutsche funnels large depositor funds to special borrowers. This is not illegal per se, but the covenants of the loans and the sources of the funds are important. If the loans are callable, that gives the lender enormous leverage, as calling loans can render an organization instantly insolvent. THAT is why it is a national security issue. In the espionage business, high debt is one of the hooks case officers use to 'encourage' targets to reveal classified information. The corollary is that high debt is a reason why the US would decline or revoke a security clearance on a US Govt employee. "Since I'm assuming you have no experience in intelligence..." Unwillingly spot on! ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barmbeker Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 It's very quiet on the side of the Trump- supporters, today! Wonder why!? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Sujo said: You cant fix stupid. Correct. But sometime I have to admit that I hope they are not all totally stupid but just a little stupid. I mean how stupid do you have to be to vote for that guy again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 7 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: 9 hours ago, Sujo said: You cant fix stupid. Correct. But sometime I have to admit that I hope they are not all totally stupid but just a little stupid. I mean how stupid do you have to be to vote for that guy again? Just like 2016, a lot of votes aren't so much for Trump as against the deeply entrenched swamp creatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shdmn Posted September 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2020 Here is a quick business lesson for you all. If you inherit $400,000,000 from your father and are (at least) $400,000,000 in debt when you are 74 you are a terrible business man. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsmith Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Tippaporn said: By what stretch of the imagination does a president's debt equate to national security issues? The absurdity does not go unnoticed. Anyone who has ever held a clearance knows of this. You are warned about it. Any type of substantial debt makes you a security risk because you become a target for others to help you pay those debts. It's even more significant in the case of a president. He has more than $400m due in the next few years. I'm sure there is a country or two that would be willing to help drive some money his way in order to get what they wanted Edited September 29, 2020 by jcsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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simple1 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 hours ago, impulse said: Just like 2016, a lot of votes aren't so much for Trump as against the deeply entrenched swamp creatures. I suggest for the majority trump is the epitome pf the 'swamp'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 So Trump has been under audit for 15 years? If not how has he gotten away from paying for so long? Hmmmm Trump supporters, is your hero so shiny now? I hope much more is uncovered before the election. Geezer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack100 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Almost a MINUS billionaire ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 21 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said: So Trump has been under audit for 15 years? If not how has he gotten away from paying for so long? Hmmmm Trump supporters, is your hero so shiny now? I hope much more is uncovered before the election. Geezer I doubt much will happen before but lots of experts think both he and his unofficial wife (Ivanka) can easily end up in prison for tax evasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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