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Currently on a 12 month child extension of an O/A visa. My son lives with me full time and has done for 4 years. Lately his mother sniffing around and whatever her intentions are they would be self interest. My question is, by chance she came and took him (over my dead body), and I was say 9 months into my parent extension with renewal coming up. How would I get on at my next extension? I am retirement age and was on a retirement visa before but now I do not keep 800k in the bank permanently. So for example the worst happens and I am 3 months away from extending my parent visa for another year, but now no longer qualify. I wont qualify for a retirement visa as I wont have had the funds in the bank for the required 12 months.

 

In this case could I simply start again? Possibly get a new O visa instead of an O/A to avoid insurance (preferably without leaving the country)?  If I applied for a new O visa based on retirement do you just need the funds in the bank when applying or is there a time period you need to hold funds in the bank?

 

Very unlikely this would happen but always in the back of my mind as I have a substantial lot of stuff here. Even 3 months wouldn't be enough time for me to sell up and be ready to leave. I guess before this could be extended with border runs etc but not possible now. Must be a lot of people here in difficult circumstances.

How would I handle this should I end up in this position

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

I wont qualify for a retirement visa as I wont have had the funds in the bank for the required 12 months.

As you would be changing the reason for the Extension I expect 800,000 seasoned for 2 months would be good. Although beware you do need to have the medical insurance if your Permission is indeed based on an O-A Visa Entry.

 

Not sure how you would get the 'O' Visa without leaving the country, an agent would maybe help. If borders are open and you can come back in on an Exempt and convert it, for retirement you would have to show 800k from overseas.

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2 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

As you have changed the reason for the Extension I expect 800,000 seasoned for 2 months would be good. Although beware you do need to have medical insurance if your Permission is indeed based on an O-A Visa Entry.

Yeah I did mention I was aware of medical insurance and probably would be a deal breaker for me so wouldn't be extending O/A. Be surprised in the future if they don't apply med insurance to all visas but then again hopefully with the loss of tourists now they will be trying to make things easier...But hey, we are in opposite world so anything could happen and it wont be logical or reasonable.

 

So I would be looking at getting an O visa if possible and then extending that on retirement. How would that play out? Do I need to leave the country?

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3 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

Do I need to leave the country?

Yes

You cannot change non immigrant visa categories within the country. 

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1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

Yes

You cannot change non immigrant visa categories within the country. 

So given current circumstances ie impossible to leave the country and return, how could I buy myself approx 12 months to sort my affairs out? 

 

How much is required medial insurance approximately for a 57 yo?

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27 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

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How much is required medial insurance approximately for a 57 yo?

Hi in your original message you wrote > Currently on a 12 month child extension of an O/A visa.

So if you apply again for the 1-year extension of stay based on your original Non Imm O-A Visa for that reason < support of Thai child > the Non Imm O-A compliant health-insurance is NOT applicable for you.

That mandatory thai IO-approved health-insurance requirement is ONLY required when applying for the 1-year extension based on your original Non Imm O-A Visa for reason of RETIREMENT.

When applying for any other reason it is not required.

 

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20 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

That mandatory thai IO-approved health-insurance requirement is ONLY required when applying for the 1-year extension based on your original Non Imm O-A Visa for reason of RETIREMENT.

When applying for any other reason it is not required.

If he applies for a extension based upon retirement he would still need insurance since his original entry was from a Non-OA visa. The only way to rid of the OA part is to leave and re-enter the country with a non-o visa.

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47 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

If he applies for a extension based upon retirement he would still need insurance since his original entry was from a Non-OA visa. The only way to rid of the OA part is to leave and re-enter the country with a non-o visa.

That is indeed correct.

But there have been several reports of those applying for the 1-year extension of stay based on their original Non Imm O-A Visa that were NOT required to meet the IO-approved health-insurance requirement when applying for a different reason than RETIREMENT.

OP wrote > Currently on a 12 month child extension of an O/A visa.

So if he applies again for the 1-year extension of stay based on his original Non Imm O-A Visa for that reason < support of Thai child > the Non Imm O-A compliant health-insurance will NOT be applicable for him.

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2 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

Yeah I did mention I was aware of medical insurance and probably would be a deal breaker for me so wouldn't be extending O/A. Be surprised in the future if they don't apply med insurance to all visas but then again hopefully with the loss of tourists now they will be trying to make things easier...But hey, we are in opposite world so anything could happen and it wont be logical or reasonable.

 

So I would be looking at getting an O visa if possible and then extending that on retirement. How would that play out? Do I need to leave the country?

You can use an agent to get rid of the requirement for the mandatory health insurance when extending your stay based on an initial O-A Visa. A friend of mine did it earlier this year. He met the financial requirements, but didn't want to pay for a Thai health insurance. He paid the agent 7k. 

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22 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

You can use an agent to get rid of the requirement for the mandatory health insurance when extending your stay based on an initial O-A Visa. A friend of mine did it earlier this year. He met the financial requirements, but didn't want to pay for a Thai health insurance. He paid the agent 7k. 

Depending on his age, your friend might have been better of actually subscribing to the mandatory Non Imm O-A compliant health-insurance.  The IO-approved LMG Insurance Plan 1 (with 200K deductible) policy sells at an annual premium of 6.000 to 11.400 THB in the age bracket of 51 till 75 years of age.   

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1 hour ago, Peter Denis said:

That is indeed correct.

But there have been several reports of those applying for the 1-year extension of stay based on their original Non Imm O-A Visa that were NOT required to meet the IO-approved health-insurance requirement when applying for a different reason than RETIREMENT.

OP wrote > Currently on a 12 month child extension of an O/A visa.

So if he applies again for the 1-year extension of stay based on his original Non Imm O-A Visa for that reason < support of Thai child > the Non Imm O-A compliant health-insurance will NOT be applicable for him.

I understand those points already if you read my opening post. I have a parent visa now and no need for insurance. If I extend based on retirement I will need medical insurance and 800k in the bank year round etc etc, why I would rather avoid it

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59 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

You can use an agent to get rid of the requirement for the mandatory health insurance when extending your stay based on an initial O-A Visa. A friend of mine did it earlier this year. He met the financial requirements, but didn't want to pay for a Thai health insurance. He paid the agent 7k. 

For 7000 baht looks like he would of been better off just getting the medical insurance unless he was over 75. Has anyone tested out LMG yet? Are they paying out benefits and doing the right thing?

 

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When things or if things ever return to normal, re leaving and re entering the country. I believe there is a 12 month ME parental visa available. 12 month visa but need to leave the country and return every 3 or 4 months. How does this work?

 

Can u make the initial application in Thailand or do you have to leave the country?

 

I believe you still need the 400k in the bank ....is this only on the day you initially apply or every time you re enter the country?

 

I have a legitimacy letter but I believe you only need show the child's birth certificate with your name on it. Do they actually check up if the child is living with you full time? Is there any thing required to be signed by the mother?

 

Is there medical insurance required for this currently? I am guessing soon maybe medical insurance required for all expat visas

 

 

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