Bangkok: Will the "Venice of the East" disappear under the sea in 30 years!?

[rickudon]

On 9/30/2020 at 4:21 AM, scammed said:

fear not

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Nils-Axel_Moerner

 

 

 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323685720_Sea_Level_Changes_enigma_threat_or_just_as_observed

Abstract

The Global sea level is presently changing at rates ranging from ±0.0 mm/yr (in the Maldives, Goa India, Bangladesh, Fiji, Kiribati, Tuvalu, Vanuatu, northeast South America, Venice, etc) to a rise of 1.0 ±0.1 mm/yr (the North Sea, Kattegatt, the Baltic, northeast USA, etc) [1-5]. This poses not threats for low-lying coasts and islands. There are no signs of any acceleration. By 2100 sea level is likely to rise only in the order of 5 cm ±15 cm.

Researchgate is not really a reliable site - practically anybody can upload their so called research without any peer review. As for a sea level rise of only 5-15 cm, it has risen by 7.5 cm in the last 25 years - and is accelerating. 

Sea level does not rise uniformly - you can always find some sites with zero or even negative change over a short period. He just has some crackpot theory that the planets control sea levels on a cyclical basis. Note - all his references are to his own articles!

[Dumbastheycome]

What ! Really?

From many estimations of various experts there is some agrrement that "Bangkok" is sinking and sea levels are  rising which is combining  to anticipate eventual problems.

But I am  both  amazed and concerned  about the  absence  here on TVF of the fact as yet  nobody has postulated salvation  by way of the claims of impending  ownership  by Chinese!

Surely ,( as  predictions made suggest)  having invested in infrastructure  that ultimately will ensure  unchallenged and  unencumbered access to the coastal ports that Chinese interests  would  not rapidly and  efficiently create an artificial  island  from which to dispense commodities  to it's new territories  both near and  far? Suspended  on  pillars of  great strength and durability  over Soi Suhkamavit there  could be the  military runway of a facility designed  to maintain  surveillance on the smooth trade of vessels of the air and sea  in the  wider regions of  ........? Converted  to solar power the  flashing  lights of the high rise  building  could  co-ordinated into  navigation lights  for  sampans .

Why oh why  have people missed the  opportunity  thus  far !

 

 

[scammed]

1 hour ago, rickudon said:

Researchgate is not really a reliable site - practically anybody can upload their so called research without any peer review. As for a sea level rise of only 5-15 cm, it has risen by 7.5 cm in the last 25 years - and is accelerating. 

Sea level does not rise uniformly - you can always find some sites with zero or even negative change over a short period. He just has some crackpot theory that the planets control sea levels on a cyclical basis. Note - all his references are to his own articles!

he is considered the worlds premier authority on sea level,

he was in fact selected as the head of that group by ipcc

at its formation, but when he wouldnt parrot their drivel

thy had a fallout. and no, it isnt accelerating, that is pure propaganda

like almost everything else

[onebir]

On 9/29/2020 at 10:21 AM, Antiparovian said:

Use submarines as public transport

Attention: Musk

[tgw]

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Will Bangkok, the capital of Thailand for almost 250 years, disappear under the sea? 

that's most improbable, as many building are over 200 meters tall, and the Grand Rama 9 Tower will probably have been completed at that time, reaching 615m into the sky.

 

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Some say that Krung Thep, as the Thais call Bangkok, will be gone in 30 years. 

there are 2 things to note here:

- firstly, it is entirely accurate that Thai people tend to give Thai names to their cities, as irritating as that may be. they even give Thai names to their people! luckily, many have nicknames that are easy to remember.

- secondly, the author has to make up his mind. first wondering if Bangkok will be under the sea - it will not - and now conjecturing it might not just be submerged, but gone entirely. where will it go? will it lift off like Atlantis in Stargate?

 

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Others are prepared to believe that human technology can save the city from a watery grave - or at least the majority of it. 

this gets my imagination racing... what does the "majority of a watery grave" look like ? or will a minority of human technology save the city?

 

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Posing the question as to whether the city will disappear they admitted that no one is really sure. 

this question has been answered already - it won't disappear, as unlike Atlantis in Stargate, Bangkok has no cloaking field. So it might be partially submerged.

 

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Climate change causing rising sea levels is adding to the long-standing fears. 

long-standing is accurate, actually current sea levels are 130 meters higher than 20.000 years ago. but the fears only appeared some decades ago.

 

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Old problems remain largely unaddressed including the fact that much of Bangkok is under sea level, in some places as much as 2 meters. 

my, my, so this problem needs to be addressed - just make a law that no part of the city shall be under sea level and have the RTP enforce it.

 

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Concreting of vast swathes of the metro area and the effect of ground water changes has left great damage and great challenges alike for engineers battling to preserve the capital. 

yup. put more weight on the ground, it squeezes the water out and it lowers ground level. one the other hand, if it's not concreted, there is no metro area and no capital.

 

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The capital was moved to a strategic bend in the river by Rama 1 in 1782 after Thonburi on the other side of the river was named the capital following the glory days of Ayutthaya. 

that's a nice sugarcoating.

Ayutthaya was repeatedly defeated and sacked by the Burmese.

 

 

 

[Oldie]

Bangkok will sink because of too many soapy massages:

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5427300/bangkok-thailand-brothels-submerged-soapy-water/

[rickudon]

2 hours ago, scammed said:

he is considered the worlds premier authority on sea level,

he was in fact selected as the head of that group by ipcc

at its formation, but when he wouldnt parrot their drivel

thy had a fallout. and no, it isnt accelerating, that is pure propaganda

like almost everything else

'Worlds premier authority' - By himself. He also doesn't believe in global warming, but does believe in dowsing - for water and other dubious electromagnetic fields - but will not take part in scientific tests of it ...... Just another nutjob.

[scammed]

3 minutes ago, rickudon said:

'Worlds premier authority' - By himself. He also doesn't believe in global warming, but does believe in dowsing - for water and other dubious electromagnetic fields - but will not take part in scientific tests of it ...... Just another nutjob.

by ipcc for instance, but they had a change of heart when they found out he wouldnt support their inane gibberish

Edited October 3, 2020 by scammed

[micmichd]

8 hours ago, tgw said:

that's most improbable, as many building are over 200 meters tall, and the Grand Rama 9 Tower will probably have been completed at that time, reaching 615m into the sky.

 

there are 2 things to note here:

- firstly, it is entirely accurate that Thai people tend to give Thai names to their cities, as irritating as that may be. they even give Thai names to their people! luckily, many have nicknames that are easy to remember.

- secondly, the author has to make up his mind. first wondering if Bangkok will be under the sea - it will not - and now conjecturing it might not just be submerged, but gone entirely. where will it go? will it lift off like Atlantis in Stargate?

 

this gets my imagination racing... what does the "majority of a watery grave" look like ? or will a minority of human technology save the city?

 

this question has been answered already - it won't disappear, as unlike Atlantis in Stargate, Bangkok has no cloaking field. So it might be partially submerged.

 

long-standing is accurate, actually current sea levels are 130 meters higher than 20.000 years ago. but the fears only appeared some decades ago.

 

my, my, so this problem needs to be addressed - just make a law that no part of the city shall be under sea level and have the RTP enforce it.

 

yup. put more weight on the ground, it squeezes the water out and it lowers ground level. one the other hand, if it's not concreted, there is no metro area and no capital.

 

that's a nice sugarcoating.

Ayutthaya was repeatedly defeated and sacked by the Burmese.

 

 

 

Maybe, but Siam liberated herself from the Burmese. 

 

It's not whole Bangkok that is drowning, it's "only" the Old Heart of Bangkok, Rattankosin Island, the klong and temple area. But that includes Yaowarat ("Chinatown"), so I don't think the Chinese would let it sink. 

The Rattankosin Island was declared a world heritage a couple of years ago, so I think the UN would help, too.