Top zoo official shot dead while probing missing albino barking deer

[tandor]

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

very dangerous job indeed ...  he knew the risks.

..he could have beaten the python; but not a speeding bullet...RIP

[Keesters]

4 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Top zoo official shot dead while probing an albino barking deer

 

No wonder he got shot

Pretty hard to probe a MISSING deer. 

[Classic Ray]

As a rare animal, disappeared into some rich pooh yai’s collection or the international pet trade. The official obviously got too close to the truth.

[The Theory]

8 hours ago, rooster59 said:

claimed the deer had been swallowed by a python

Or perhaps on its way to China. 

[aussienam]

It's sad people make fun of a man murdered with play on words/puns etc.  

Not so nice when you are faced with a dead body in front of you and a grieving family wailing, etc.

 

And all the Tha Visa 'experienced keyboard detectives' who make conclusions, assumptions, beliefs and wild theories based on a journalist reporting an incident. 

There are a multitude of reasons why investigations are delayed, why evidence is suddenly discovered etc.  

 

I was a detective in Oz and the amount of <deleted> published in news reports even in Oz was amazing. 

 

Luckily we had some control with our media liaison unit and very often needed to keep certain aspects of the investigation close to our chests so as not to compromise ongoing enquiries, such as additional suspects, legal reasons, etc. 

 

And we had the public ranting about inaction despite the fact we couldn't tell them we were still working hard on cases. Because, letting that out would totally <deleted> up an investigation and put operatives at risk or let savvy crooks know what we were up to.

 

So just because a news article states something, it does not make it necessarily correct and often does not reveal all evidence.  The only time most details are revealed in a news report is if it has been concluded at court. 

 

Even then often in trials/hearings certain evidence is not admitted and other evidence that is admitted is not publicly revealed as police 'claim privilege', such as if it reveals secretive police methodologies that are important to not reveal to the public.  I know Thailand is different, but many things are the same. 

 

Anyway, that's my rant.  Now, back to reading more keyboard Detectives state what they deem to be 'obvious'.  

 

[brianthainess]

I would like to know if there were any witness's to the shootings, this could be a double murder, suicided is always an excuse to avoid an investigation, Oh my god is this a conspiracy get the pop corn in. R.I.P. to a guy doing his job who could expose corruption.

[mrfill]

3 hours ago, 4737 Carlin said:

The missing deer was probably illegally sold to a rich Chinese businessman. They seem to think eating rare and endangered animals will give them superpowers.

Muntjacs are not rare or endangered, they are very common indeed. There's even thousands in the UK wandering around after some escaped from a private zoo nearly a century ago. There's loads of wallabies in the UK too for the same reason.

 

[sead]

Alot of money involved ofc. And ties to some peoplethat were to tough to handle. 

[DogNo1]

In my imagination, the director was about to discover that the valuable deer was lost due to the workers fault, so to avoid the shame of responsibility for the deer’s loss, the worker killed the director and then himself.  As set forth in Ruth Benedict’s book The Chrysanthemum and the Sword, Japan and many other Asian countries have shame cultures rather than guilt cultures.  This accounts for occurrences that do not yield to Western analysis.  A friend of mine wrote his Ph.D. thesis on suicide in Japan which continues to have a high suicide rate.  It is not uncommon for a man who loses his job to commit suicide and take his family with him.  This is incomprehensible to Westerners who can’t imagine that there is no way out of any mistake or misfortune.  We have seen again and again on Thai Visa that severe and shocking confrontations can result in murder.  In Thai culture, there is no way to handle serious insults and the shame that results.  It’s popularly called loss of face and is difficult to recover from.  It often results in people avoiding each other forever after.

[sambum]

42 minutes ago, mrfill said:

Muntjacs are not rare or endangered, they are very common indeed. There's even thousands in the UK wandering around after some escaped from a private zoo nearly a century ago. There's loads of wallabies in the UK too for the same reason.

 

Albino Barking Deer (Muntiacus muntjak)

 

"Muntjacs are not rare or endangered"? Really?

 

"Native to Indochina, Indonesia, Southern China, Sri Lanka and India, barking deer are a protected species in Thailand, but albinos are very rare."

 

 

[TERMINATOR3AB]

Lost for words  

Only  in Thailand 

 

good Luck  Thailand

[Airbagwill]

So why was he shot?

Because he was investigating or because he was involved?

[Airbagwill]

52 minutes ago, DogNo1 said:

n my imagination, the director was about to discover that the valuable deer was lost due to the workers fault, so to avoid the shame of responsibility for the deer’s loss,

or was it the other way round??

[LEZZA]

You couldn't make this up!

[Fairynuff]

I’m sure the missing animal will turn up in someone’s private collection 

[digger70]

5 hours ago, shady86 said:

Money and guns can solve everything here. 

Yep ,but Guns are Permanent No coming back  for Blackmail !

[Airbagwill]

I  think this shows how deadly serious the illegal wildlife trade in Thailand is......it's on a par with drugs and people smuggling.

The government of course raise their hands in horror....but any real action is unlikely to manifest itself.

 

Expect an announcement from some senior official telling other officials to "make sure they do their job"

Edited October 4, 2020 by Airbagwill

[pacovl46]

8 hours ago, stouricks said:

Yep, can someone explain how the fact he was looking for an ALBINO deer, alledgedly swallowed by a python 6 months ago, has anything to do with a pi..ed off member of his staff shooting him and then himself. 

Well, I guess the guy who shot him was the one who let the deer disappear and the guy caught onto him so he got rid of him?

[Mr Grumpy]

54 minutes ago, Fairynuff said:

I’m sure the missing animal will turn up in someone’s private collection 

No, complete white off.....

[Elkski]

9 hours ago, steven100 said:

very dangerous job indeed ...  he knew the risks.

How stupid  .   Since when is zoo director a dangerous job?

[Airbagwill]

12 minutes ago, Elkski said:

How stupid  .   Since when is zoo director a dangerous job?

Most of the Wildlife and environmental jobs in Thai government are considered backwater, deadens jobs. The only thing to do is shuffle paper or get tempted by corruption.

From Rangers to the top the whole thing needs to be taken more seriously.

[bimmerbob]

9 hours ago, madmen said:

Where is the logic 

Is it the lockdown which is causing such bad reporting or is this the norm?

[metisdead]

An offensive troll post has been removed. 

[steven100]

1 hour ago, Elkski said:

How stupid  .   Since when is zoo director a dangerous job?

the results speak for themselves

[steven100]

2 hours ago, Airbagwill said:

I  think this shows how deadly serious the illegal wildlife trade in Thailand is......it's on a par with drugs and people smuggling.

The government of course raise their hands in horror....but any real action is unlikely to manifest itself.

 

Expect an announcement from some senior official telling other officials to "make sure they do their job"

correct .... money was made out of that deer and the new guy investigating had to go .... it's not rocket science ...  !!

[Airbagwill]

Just now, steven100 said:

correct .... money was made out of that deer and the new guy investigating had to go .... it's not rocket science ...  !!

..or the new guy was involved

[Airbagwill]

45 minutes ago, steven100 said:

correct .... money was made out of that deer and the new guy investigating had to go .... it's not rocket science ...  !!

I believe it wasn't just one animal?

[steven100]

11 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Top zoo official shot dead while probing an albino barking deer

 

No wonder he got shot

just goes to show the length's some will go to get satifaction ....

[Megasin1]

15 minutes ago, steven100 said:

just goes to show the length's some will go to get satifaction ....

Yes, and although there is a gun problem in Thailand, didn't realise that it had go so bad that even the albino barking deer are armed, I am on the side of the deer though, do you think its their white skin that causes the unwanted attention?

[Makoshark]

those damn pythons ????