Foreign property owners now allowed to return to Thailand

[sdweller 53]

Thank GOD we did not buy property in Thailand, this country is NOT what we thought it was!!!   Vietnam, here we come, (as soon as they open anyway lol)

[SW Happy 45]

On 10/10/2020 at 6:51 AM, Oldie said:

You need to be rich AND clever to be able to travel to Thailand...

If you are rich and clever, surely you would put your time and money into more welcoming countries??

[perry21 43]

I have spent the past 45 minutes skim reading the 32 pages of submissions. It is apparent that many of us (myself included) are grieving about the abrupt and unpleasant change in circumstances as regards travel to Thailand etc. This made me think of the Kubler Ross model of grieving (you can google it) - the 5 stages starting with denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Different people on this thread are at different stages - evidently there is quite a lot of anger and bargaining. One of the essential qualities of being human is compassion for fellow humans who are suffering, and at its best, TV can be a real pillar of support. A lot of people come here for help, even if sometimes that plea is disguised as anger etc. I have found reading the submissions helpful in coming to terms with my own situation.

 

I suspect there are some important truths here in the various submissions. Thai Government is not as deranged or aggressively racist as some people think; in a crisis you look after "your own". However it is clear that farang travel is a low priority so we should not expect that to get sorted anytime soon imo. There is a real issue as regards the possibility of a severe prolonged recession continuing into 2021 and beyond, and the way that plays out is quite uncertain.

 

My own view is that the economic situation would have to get considerably worse (and thats not inevitable) before the Government is forced to pivot towards a mass farang reopening - currently the pain is manageable and majority opinion supports staying closed. 

 

I have been through the first 4 stages. I think I am approaching stage 5, acceptance. I do not expect to be able to return, on a sensible basis, to my holiday home until this time next year, 1 year away, at the earliest. I have stopped trying to rationalise the Thai Government decision making. I have stopped trying to look for rays of hope from each new compromised "re-opening" initiative. Essentially, I have stopped worrying about this, accepted it and am trying to focus on other destinations that are open. 

 

Everyone's circumstances are different and my approach may not work for many. One of the good things about social media, and TV, is that it allows all of us to share our grieving experiences, and learn from others. Thank you all. 

[lkv 3,868]

24 minutes ago, perry21 said:

Thai Government is not as deranged or aggressively racist as some people think; in a crisis you look after "your own". However it is clear that farang travel is a low priority so we should not expect that to get sorted anytime soon imo.

I do like your post, nicely written.

 

But I will disagree with this part.

 

The writing has been on the wall with this administration since 2014.

 

Should I remind you about tracking sim cards for foreigners ideas? Or wristbands more recently. To keep the nation safe of covid?

 

Or how foreigners were given a form at Immigration to detail the bars they go to, the malls they visit and so on, a few years ago?

 

Should I remind you of the TM30 video, in which the foreigner was the bomber that will blow up your residence, and Thais were advised to "be safe" and report the foreigner?

 

What does half a million baht have to do with tourism, for 6 months in an account?

 

And you think they are not being racists and xenophobic?

 

In Europe, Anutin would have been sacked, and other members of the government would start apologising on his behalf.

 

Did you see that happening in Thailand?

 

So yeah, nice post, but I feel it missed the big picture.

[Teee 93]

So...people with property already and living in Thailand are they required to have 3mil in the bank now and 500k sitting in a bank account not to be used??

 

 

[jabis 1,224]

6 minutes ago, Teee said:

So...people with property already and living in Thailand are they required to have 3mil in the bank now and 500k sitting in a bank account not to be used??

 

 

If their visas or permissions of stay are about to run out, then yes - some people renewed or went the agent way, but buddha forbid you exit the country - there are them requirements to get back

[Jonathan Swift 473]

On 10/9/2020 at 11:34 PM, Brunolem said:

First they destroy their tourism industry by creating, then suspending for no clear reason, a new 9 month tourist visa.

 

(Note that the Chinese who were ready to embark on the first flight to Thailand, cancelled at the last minute, may not be reimbursed for their fully prepaid voyage).

 

Now they are up to destroying their real estate industry by telling foreign buyers that their investments in Thailand's condos don't matter...what really matter is the cash they deposit in Thai banks.

 

What's next?

there is a newer story in which Thai immigration admits that no Chinese actually applied for a STV, all that had were "inquiries".   

 

[superal 1,897]

No doubt all ambassadors were consulted   for what that would be worth

[michel7752 21]

Post #469 by perry21: EXCELLENT POST!

[Pattaya Spotter 2,678]

20 hours ago, sdweller said:

Thank GOD we did not buy property in Thailand, this country is NOT what we thought it was!!!   Vietnam, here we come, (as soon as they open anyway lol)

And neither is Vietnam  

[pennine 197]

On 10/10/2020 at 3:35 PM, AlfHuy said:

I will send you a PM with my private bank account details.

And prove that I am an idiot.

[samtam 388]

On 10/13/2020 at 5:45 AM, jabis said:

If their visas or permissions of stay are about to run out, then yes - some people renewed or went the agent way, but buddha forbid you exit the country - there are them requirements to get back

Source?

[NB1986 276]

On 10/10/2020 at 6:13 AM, Forza2002 said:

Xenophobia is rife in Thailand at the moment. The Thai Elite doing everything in their powers to reduce the number of Farang, Guilo's coming to Thailand...  

I think the real reason is Thai elite with their Chinese brothers wants to drive down the prices of real estate market, than buy it for half price as now, when they manage to do it in a year or two they will allow foreigners back into Thailand and they can purchase the same condo for 2x higher prices. Only now it shows how unsafe was Thailand in last 6 years and theyve lied about it. 

Edited October 18, 2020 by NB1986

[micmichd 1,583]

On 10/13/2020 at 2:19 AM, lkv said:

I do like your post, nicely written.

 

But I will disagree with this part.

 

The writing has been on the wall with this administration since 2014.

 

Should I remind you about tracking sim cards for foreigners ideas? Or wristbands more recently. To keep the nation safe of covid?

 

Or how foreigners were given a form at Immigration to detail the bars they go to, the malls they visit and so on, a few years ago?

 

Should I remind you of the TM30 video, in which the foreigner was the bomber that will blow up your residence, and Thais were advised to "be safe" and report the foreigner?

 

What does half a million baht have to do with tourism, for 6 months in an account?

 

And you think they are not being racists and xenophobic?

 

In Europe, Anutin would have been sacked, and other members of the government would start apologising on his behalf.

 

Did you see that happening in Thailand?

 

So yeah, nice post, but I feel it missed the big picture.

None of this except the obligation to show my passport when buying a new sim card (like I would have to do in Europe, too) ever happened to me. 

And it's my life that counts. 

[polpott 5,173]

4 minutes ago, micmichd said:

None of this except the obligation to show my passport when buying a new sim card (like I would have to do in Europe, too) ever happened to me. 

And it's my life that counts. 

I have never bought a sim in Thailand. My wife buys them for me........in her name. Officially I own nothing and subscribe to nothing in Thailand.