djayz Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Does anybody here grow, or know where I can get young plants/cuttings, of gooseberry plants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Without (well, not too much) wanting to be disparaging, why would you want gooseberries when there are so many excellent fruits available in Thailand? I desperately tried all sorts of European vegetables when I came here, gave up on nearly all except when there were Thai varieties available. I never tried European fruits at all, have figs and passion fruit, mangoes and dragon fruit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 hours ago, cooked said: Without (well, not too much) wanting to be disparaging, why would you want gooseberries when there are so many excellent fruits available in Thailand? I desperately tried all sorts of European vegetables when I came here, gave up on nearly all except when there were Thai varieties available. I never tried European fruits at all, have figs and passion fruit, mangoes and dragon fruit.... As much and all as I enjoy the wide selection of local fruit, I do sometimes miss some of the fruit I know from my childhood (mainly apples). I have very fond memories of picking gooseberries as a child and my mother making jam from the fruit. I'm really just keen on growing a few plants here, probably for sentimental reasons more so than anything else, but also for the fruit. My partner has done a great job of growing raspberries and blackberries here, despite having been told that they would never survive. Looking for a bit of a challenge too I suppose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Seems as if Lazada have them: https://pages.lazada.co.th/wow/i/th/marketing/mkt_lp_v5?trigger_item=952922673&campaign_id=0&venture=th&sku_id=2000430855&wh_skucount=1&entrance=mktlp&exlaz=d_1:mm_150050845_51350205_2010350205::12:1498579383!58089999096!!!pla-294682000766!m!294682000766!2000430855!128828906&gclid=Cj0KCQjwoJX8BRCZARIsAEWBFMIVc7lz_WwndMmr_tSz5JIAY5ZWfZQ771PaYj4P0j_kc-2ExAho-BIaAmVHEALw_wcB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 hours ago, faraday said: Seems as if Lazada have them: https://pages.lazada.co.th/wow/i/th/marketing/mkt_lp_v5?trigger_item=952922673&campaign_id=0&venture=th&sku_id=2000430855&wh_skucount=1&entrance=mktlp&exlaz=d_1:mm_150050845_51350205_2010350205::12:1498579383!58089999096!!!pla-294682000766!m!294682000766!2000430855!128828906&gclid=Cj0KCQjwoJX8BRCZARIsAEWBFMIVc7lz_WwndMmr_tSz5JIAY5ZWfZQ771PaYj4P0j_kc-2ExAho-BIaAmVHEALw_wcB Thanks, but I'm looking for rooted plants/cuttings. I've tried growing them from seed a few times, but with 0% success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 6 hours ago, djayz said: Thanks, but I'm looking for rooted plants/cuttings. I've tried growing them from seed a few times, but with 0% success. Ah...ok...I'll keep looking, because I haven't eaten Gooseberry jam for such a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirocco Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Hello, why not take a picture of the plants on LAZADA and show them to a flower or plant merchant, or even to those around you. I have often obtained results by doing this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time to grow Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 On 10/14/2020 at 2:54 AM, djayz said: or know where I can get young plants/cuttings, I have a gooseberry plant in the Northern Nakhon Sawan area. You are welcome to take cuttings if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time to grow Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Time to grow said: I have a gooseberry plant Correction, I was mistaken, it is not a gooseberry plant as I thought. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Will a Gooseberry grow and thrive in the heat of Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirocco Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Nothing ventured, nothing gained. And it is above all the pleasure of touching the leaves, the thorns. I have date palms in my garden, and I will not go climb the palm tree tomorrow. Just for fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 4 hours ago, sirocco said: Hello, why not take a picture of the plants on LAZADA and show them to a flower or plant merchant, or even to those around you. I have often obtained results by doing this. I have looked in a few nurseries for the plants, but to no avail. Thanks for the tip though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Time to grow said: I have a gooseberry plant in the Northern Nakhon Sawan area. You are welcome to take cuttings if you like. 3 hours ago, Time to grow said: Correction, I was mistaken, it is not a gooseberry plant as I thought. Sorry. No problem. Thanks for the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Damrongsak said: Will a Gooseberry grow and thrive in the heat of Thailand? I won't know until I try. Raspberries and blackberries grow well at our place in Korat. Who would've thought, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirocco Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 The gooseberry must grow in Thailand, because I found it "on the fruits of Thailand" - Thaiti cherry, girembellier, in thai, it's "mayom" in Latin, it is "phyllanthus acidus" the fruit: girembelle - surelle - sour there are other gooseberries, but these correspond to my garden, in my country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMuddle Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 The only Gooseberries I've seen in Thailand are Cape Gooseberries, grown in Thailand, and on sale at Makro. They're bitter tasting, but very nice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrMuddle said: The only Gooseberries I've seen in Thailand are Cape Gooseberries, grown in Thailand, and on sale at Makro. They're bitter tasting, but very nice. I have grown those too, but had to dig them up as I needed that space for a new grow bed. Am growing them again, but suspect I planted them out too early in the wet season - they don't seem to like that much water. Trial and error. Edited October 15, 2020 by djayz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 8 hours ago, sirocco said: The gooseberry must grow in Thailand, because I found it "on the fruits of Thailand" - Thaiti cherry, girembellier, in thai, it's "mayom" in Latin, it is "phyllanthus acidus" the fruit: girembelle - surelle - sour there are other gooseberries, but these correspond to my garden, in my country I assumed, pehaps wrongly, that the OP was referring to Ribes uva-crispa, or European Gooseberry. There are many different plants with the common name of Gooseberry. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Damrongsak said: I assumed, pehaps wrongly, that the OP was referring to Ribes uva-crispa, or European Gooseberry. There are many different plants with the common name of Gooseberry. Yes, your assumption was 100% spot on old boy! I did, in fact, mean robes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, djayz said: Yes, your assumption was 100% spot on old boy! I did, in fact, mean robes. I did see where they are said to grow in the Himalayas and perhaps part of India, but then they have mountains and different climates. They are deciduous. They seem to be grown in temperate regions, as in below freezing temps in the winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 23 hours ago, sirocco said: The gooseberry must grow in Thailand, because I found it "on the fruits of Thailand" - Thaiti cherry, girembellier, in thai, it's "mayom" in Latin, it is "phyllanthus acidus" the fruit: girembelle - surelle - sour there are other gooseberries, but these correspond to my garden, in my country The gooseberry as most of us know it is "Ribes', definitely NOT Phyllanthus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirocco Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 It's true, but I know both well, since I had them in my respective countries. And even if the Phyllanthus acidus was mainly used for decoration, in the streets or gardens, my mother made jelly. As for Ribes uva-crispa, I made hedges in my garden, in another of my countries, and made pies, jam, and fruit salad. But apparently, from my research, Phyllanthus does exist in Thailand. But maybe our gardener will have to wait a long time to pick the fruits. Like me, dates from Tunisia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulhamboy Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I paid 10 baht for this plant in a market here in hua hin was a foot high, now approx 5 foot after two months, think it is a Star gooseberry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirocco Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Hello, It looks like the foliage of the girembellier / star currant / phyllanthus. But difficult to pin down. I have 2 plants which have roughly the same leaves. But one is a flowering plant that looks like a big blue ball and the other a shrub that comes from a fruit, but I don't know which one, and which must be 7 years old. But nothing!!!!!! In which HUA HIN market did you have this shrub? thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickstart Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 7 hours ago, fulhamboy said: I paid 10 baht for this plant in a market here in hua hin was a foot high, now approx 5 foot after two months, think it is a Star gooseberry In Thai, it is มะยม Ma-yom or Phyllanthus Acidus ,as a fruit to say they are bitter an understatement , We have a tree the wife has made a syrup and put them in ,or sometimes she has then raw with sugar and chile mix. But, I would say if you get them ripe they would make a nice jam ,very hard fruit would take some cooking to soften them up, worth a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I think sour is the word for Ma-yom, not bitter. I doubt that the European Gooseberry would grow in Thailand, as they prefer cool summers and a long chilling period. At very least, you'd want a variety that is adapted to warmer areas, such as Hinnomaki or Pixwell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 4:36 AM, faraday said: Ah...ok...I'll keep looking, because I haven't eaten Gooseberry jam for such a long time. Villa Market , have .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abonsa Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) On 10/15/2020 at 10:49 AM, MrMuddle said: The only Gooseberries I've seen in Thailand are Cape Gooseberries, grown in Thailand, and on sale at Makro. They're bitter tasting, but very nice. hello, do you know why not available now ? thanks. https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1190402-cape-gooseberry-available-all-year-cannot-find-them-now/ Edited November 3, 2020 by abonsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, abonsa said: hello, do you know why not available now ? thanks. https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1190402-cape-gooseberry-available-all-year-cannot-find-them-now/ Hi abonsa, first of all, I'm no expert on this, but, based on my own experience I'd say it's simply too wet for these plants this time of year. I grew them successfully in the past, but unfortunately I had to dig up the plants last December to make way for new grow beds. Planted out young ones about 2 months ago and every one of them died. I simply assumed it was due to the wet. I planted new seeds just a few days ago and these should be ready for transplanting in late Nov./early Dec. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMuddle Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 On 11/3/2020 at 2:46 PM, abonsa said: hello, do you know why not available now ? thanks. https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1190402-cape-gooseberry-available-all-year-cannot-find-them-now/ Sorry just saw this! They still had them for sale in Tesco-Lotus & Makro, Phetchabun last Monday (December 28 2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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