Why are farangs rude to each other?

[Silencer]

Some good answers here....but the variables are too many to generalize. When confronted by a rude foreigner, or seeing it happen to others, I have sensed these reasons (in no particular order).

1) In the boondocks there seems to be greater suspicion toward the encountered foreigner. Maybe a feeling that they aren't special anymore.

2) Some react to the other's nationality without bothering to get to know the person.

3) Drunk, overly opinionated, or just a lousy attitude always. (Probably the only reason that can't be overcome with time)

4) Jealousy. Better money, house, woman/women, life, even looks.

5) "Class" issue, upbringing, blue collar/white collar, background differences.

 

I might be wrong but those seem to be the reasons I've witnessed or experienced. Although I keep to myself for the most part I'm not adverse to striking up a conversation with another foreigner I meet, knowing it will likely just be that one time I engage them. Often they have some valuable information to share or maybe a contact or two that will make your life a bit easier here. For the real <deleted> out there (and in here) there is not much we can do about them other than to ignore them. It's too bad though as we likely have more in common with each other than mr. somchai on the street. 

 

[Lacessit]

49 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

If your partner agrees, then you can have integrity. If not, sorry it's impossible. 

Who said anything about obtaining agreement? What someone does not know can't hurt them.

My guess is if you tried that line of reasoning with the majority of women, you'd be dodging whatever they could throw.

Higamus hogamus, women are monogamous. ( Quiet, BMT )

Hogamus higamus, men are polygamous.

We've had the Christian BS fidelity concept in the West for way too long. Even the Muslims know better.

Excuse me, how far are you guys luring me off topic?

Edited October 15, 2020 by Lacessit

[ballpoint]

20 minutes ago, Silencer said:

In the boondocks there seems to be greater suspicion toward the encountered foreigner. Maybe a feeling that they aren't special anymore.

[ravip]

If you observe how some reply to posts on TVF, it is obvious that rudeness is in the genes - no need of any geneticist's opinion to prove it - a no-brainer.

Born in a developed country does not guarantee a developed brain - vise versa.

Edited October 15, 2020 by ravip

[polpott]

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Trust me, I lived in Glasgow for 5 years. 

My grandfather was Glaswegian and I've visited Glasgow on and off for most of my life. Trust me a headbutt is a Glasgow kiss.

 

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Glasgow_kiss

 

Glasgow kiss (plural Glasgow kisses)

1. (Britain, euphemistic, humorous) A sharp, sudden headbutt to the nose, usually resulting in a broken nose.

 

 

[abrahamzvi]

On 10/14/2020 at 1:57 PM, lust said:

I find that many of the westerners I come across have some quirks about them, or are total nutcases to be honest... Not all, but many... Thailand is a place for many misfits..

How right you are, all you have to do is to read some (NOT ALL) comments on this medium. Apart from this. I can report on  a recent sad case. I was with my daughter, in a pharmacy in Chiang Mai waiting to be served. A foreigner, probably English, came in and simply asked the attendant for a certain medicine and was told in broken English that as he had been told earlier, the particular medicine is not available in that pharmacy. He then asked where he could get it, and the attendant didn't seem to understand him. To be helpful I tried to translate his question to Thai and that "nice" man attcked me verbally telling me to f... off, and he doesn't need assistance as he speaks Thai himself. I would have answered him, but my daughter stopped me as she was afraid that that rude person would revert to a physical attack.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, abrahamzvi said:

How right you are, all you have to do is to read some (NOT ALL) comments on this medium. Apart from this. I can report on  a recent sad case. I was with my daughter, in a pharmacy in Chiang Mai waiting to be served. A foreigner, probably English, came in and simply asked the attendant for a certain medicine and was told in broken English that as he had been told earlier, the particular medicine is not available in that pharmacy. He then asked where he could get it, and the attendant didn't seem to understand him. To be helpful I tried to translate his question to Thai and that "nice" man attcked me verbally telling me to f... off, and he doesn't need assistance as he speaks Thai himself. I would have answered him, but my daughter stopped me as she was afraid that that rude person would revert to a physical attack.

Probably was asking for psychotic medication.. 

[Kerryd]

<deleted> are <deleted> no matter which country they are in.

I am wary of other foreigners I meet because probably 85% of the ones I have met are looking to scam you out of your money so they can extend their own a bit further (that's assuming they have any to begin with). 
Met far too many back in the days when I used to spend a lot of time in bars. Got to start noticing certain things. Like the ones who sit on one spot, nursing the same beer for hours and if you even give them a nod suddenly they are right beside you like you're best buddies who don't mind buying the next round. And then out come the sob stories and how they just need "a little bit" to tide them over until the (pension cheque/inheritance/lawsuit/house sale/etc) is deposited in their account.

Used to be a thing here called "balloon chasers". Guys who'd wander around the bars looking for ones decorated with loads of balloons, indicating that there was going to be some kind of party there that night. Usually with free food and maybe someone drunk enough to ring the bell a few times.
(Some bars got around to putting up signs that ringing the bell would only give free drinks to the staff, or just the girls, or just the girls on stage at the time as if became apparent that far too many foreigners were there just to get in on the free food and drinks.)

I knew some who were trying to get by, by borrowing from one friend then the next month trying to borrow even more from another friend so they could pay back the first one and still have enough to go drinking every night. Then try borrowing even more the next month from someone else.

 

Even in the small villages it's not much different. Many of the foreigners living in those tiny villages aren't there because they like the "rustic" lifestyle. They are there because it's dirt cheap to live compared to being in a city. You can pretty much guarantee that most of them would be gone (back to the city) in a heartbeat if they had some kind of windfall drop into their lap and they'd never consider moving back "to the village". 

Until they ran out of money again that is.

Being a dick isn't defined by the country a person is from. There are probably just as many Russian **icks as there are American, Arab, German, Aussie or UK **icks.

However, it is apparent that people tend to be irritated by <deleted> from another country quicker than those from their own countries. The same ones they will often try to defend to others as though their actions should be tolerated because they are from the same tiny speck of the world that you are.

Another truth.

Dicks hate being "out-dicked" by other dicks.

[Neeranam]

58 minutes ago, polpott said:

My grandfather was Glaswegian and I've visited Glasgow on and off for most of my life. Trust me a headbutt is a Glasgow kiss.

 

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Glasgow_kiss

 

Glasgow kiss (plural Glasgow kisses)

1. (Britain, euphemistic, humorous) A sharp, sudden headbutt to the nose, usually resulting in a broken nose.

 

 

A headbutt is a kiss, I never said it wasn't. I'm not arguing with an Englishman about what a Glesgie  handshake is . 

[Neeranam]

13 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

I am wary of other foreigners I meet because probably 85% of the ones I have met are looking to scam you out of your money so they can extend their own a bit further (that's assuming they have any to begin with).

Wow, that's a lot.

 

I'd say maybe 5% at the most.

[Lacessit]

I can remember a couple of young Brits in a restaurant in Chiang Mai a few years ago. One had lost his teaching job, and there was some <deleted> and blinding going on. They couldn't see a couple of the male wait staff looking at them, Thais know what the f-word means, and it's highly offensive to them.

I'd finished my meal, and was leaving. As I passed their table, I said "The staff are looking at you, you might want to dial back on the language". One got very aggressive.

From then on, I decided if I see a Westerner getting into trouble with their attitude, they can stew in their own juice. I'm through with trying to help others here, except the friends I know I can trust.

[Kerryd]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Wow, that's a lot.

 

I'd say maybe 5% at the most.

Well, most of the ones I met was back "in the day" when I spent far too much time in various bars and "less reputable" establishments. 

Met some good folks when we used to have ThaiVisa parties and met some others through friends of friends. But most of the ones I met while enjoying the nightlife were not so good.

[Lacessit]

Just now, Kerryd said:

Well, most of the ones I met was back "in the day" when I spent far too much time in various bars and "less reputable" establishments. 

Met some good folks when we used to have ThaiVisa parties and met some others through friends of friends. But most of the ones I met while enjoying the nightlife were not so good.

I only went to the bars to pick up girls, wasn't interested in making friends there. Having a conversation with a rambling alcoholic is not in my skill set.

Don't have many friends, more acquaintances. Meet my friends through golf.

[Ireland32]

I had a Dutch guy from BangNa , bring 8 police to my condo and report me for Ganja, luckily I had my prescription, he ripped me off a motorbike and thought I would get blacklisted so not bring him to court he has an Italian first name , I don’t  talk to foreigners anymore they just scam  of borrow money  

[Neeranam]

13 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

Well, most of the ones I met was back "in the day" when I spent far too much time in various bars and "less reputable" establishments. 

Met some good folks when we used to have ThaiVisa parties and met some others through friends of friends. But most of the ones I met while enjoying the nightlife were not so good.

Fair enough, I guess it depends where you meet them. If you meet them in a Nana brothel, there's a higher chance they might be dodgy than if you meet them in a church.

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, Ireland32 said:

I had a Dutch guy from BangNa , bring 8 police to my condo and report me for Ganja, luckily I had my prescription, he ripped me off a motorbike and thought I would get blacklisted so not bring him to court he has an Italian first name , I don’t  talk to foreigners anymore they just scam  of borrow money  

I can remember one sleazebag in Chiang Mai, Dutch guy. It got to the stage everyone avoided him. An American stiffed me for 1800 baht when I imported some herbal medicine from Australia for him that was unobtainable here.

[Neeranam]

5 minutes ago, Ireland32 said:

I had a Dutch guy from BangNa , bring 8 police to my condo and report me for Ganja, luckily I had my prescription, he ripped me off a motorbike and thought I would get blacklisted so not bring him to court he has an Italian first name , I don’t  talk to foreigners anymore they just scam  of borrow money  

I always talk to foreigners, I find them interesting. I am not going to ingnore all just because one ripped me off. 

That's like asying I'm not speaking to all Thais as one ripped me off. 

 

If I say, hey 'Paddy how're you going", would you really ignore me?

[Ireland32]

On 10/14/2020 at 2:31 PM, polpott said:

I've found the Dutch polite too. Lived there for a while too. German 100%

They are the Worst 

[Neeranam]

Some people have dark secrets. One friend I had here died in Udon a couple of years ago when in a car chase from the cops for dealing drugs.  

[Ireland32]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

I always talk to foreigners, I find them interesting. I am not going to ingnore all just because one ripped me off. 

That's like asying I'm not speaking to all Thais as one ripped me off. 

 

If I say, hey 'Paddy how're you going", would you really ignore me?

This was in Isaan never going back up there all Poor trying to escape society and most are Trump Fans 

[2530Ubon]

Just now, Ireland32 said:

They are the Worst 

Krauts or Clever Clogs?

[Ireland32]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I always talk to foreigners, I find them interesting. I am not going to ingnore all just because one ripped me off. 

That's like asying I'm not speaking to all Thais as one ripped me off. 

 

If I say, hey 'Paddy how're you going", would you really ignore me?

You get a smile 

[Ireland32]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Some people have dark secrets. One friend I had here died in Udon a couple of years ago when in a car chase from the cops for dealing drugs.  

I remember that Crazy 

[Ireland32]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I can remember one sleazebag in Chiang Mai, Dutch guy. It got to the stage everyone avoided him. An American stiffed me for 1800 baht when I imported some herbal medicine from Australia for him that was unobtainable here.

My brother told me how bad dutch were on his travels 40 years ago he doesn’t trust them 

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Fair enough, I guess it depends where you meet them. If you meet them in a Nana brothel, there's a higher chance they might be dodgy than if you meet them in a church.

I suggest you check out the reputation of the Roman Catholic Church nowadays. Thousands of lawsuits.

I've always been amused by a system where one can bonk themselves stupid, steal from their neighbor, get as drunk as a lord, beat their wife, then sit in a box with a priest and all is forgiven.

 

[Neeranam]

3 minutes ago, Ireland32 said:

This was in Isaan never going back up there all Poor trying to escape society and most are Trump Fans 

Strange generalization. Like me saying all the Irish I meet here are IRA terrorist supporters.

[2530Ubon]

Just now, Neeranam said:

Strange generalization. Like me saying all the Irish I meet here are IRA terrorist supporters.

That's the quickest way to a kneecapping

[spidermike007]

I have a somewhat unique take on this. As we get older, our bodies and minds simply are not what they used to be. I look in the mirror sometimes, and I barely recognize the guy I am staring at! 

 

The whole aging process is a somewhat undignified experience. So, unless we are making some inner effort, to improve ourselves and evolve into better versions of ourselves, in a conscious manner, in whatever way we can, the opposite tends to occur. Don't let it happen. It can be ugly. 

Edited October 15, 2020 by spidermike007

[Boomer6969]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Probably was asking for psychotic medication.. 

Blue pills aren't psychotic..

[Emdog]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Who said anything about obtaining agreement? What someone does not know can't hurt them.

My guess is if you tried that line of reasoning with the majority of women, you'd be dodging whatever they could throw.

Higamus hogamus, women are monogamous. ( Quiet, BMT )

Hogamus higamus, men are polygamous.

We've had the Christian BS fidelity concept in the West for way too long. Even the Muslims know better.

Excuse me, how far are you guys luring me off topic?

To me, it is not about "What someone does not know can't hurt them". I would know I'm cheating. Has to do with integrity, being worthy of trust, honesty.... doing my best to "do unto others as you'd have them do unto you". I'm an atheist. I don't need an external arbiter of what is right or wrong.

My take is that if you marry someone, that means neither of you screw around, full stop. If you find the temptation to wander too great, you do the right thing and get a divorce first. Applies to both partners.

Surely on some level you know that cheating isn't right, and all your rationalizations won't cover that up