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1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

You've entirely lost the thread of the discussion, Chomper.  It's about a claim that the original New York Post article wasn't vetted.  What point are you trying to make regarding that claim?  Can you clarify?

The subject of the thread is in the opening post, let me know if you are having trouble finding it.

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Pretty funny guys, I get that you hate trump, but that doesnt make this story any less true.   https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-da

Poor Trump.  First his bogus "unmasking" investigation--using taxpayer money no less--and that he's been spouting about for months, found absolutely nothing.  Then his Russian propaganda on Hunter Bid

Says honest Donald!

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The fbi will not comment on this at all until after the election. They learnt their lesson by helping trump last time when they shouldnt have.

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2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

The fbi will not comment on this at all until after the election. They learnt their lesson by helping trump last time when they shouldnt have.

What did they do?

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11 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

 

29 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Their words?  Really?  Their words verified by who?  Per the New York Times story their claim is attributed to, wouldn't you know it, two unnamed sources.  Do a search with the search term, Bruce Golding refuses to put name on story.  Tons of entries all quoting the one and only story reporting this, the New York Times.  Not a single entry in which Bruce Golding confirms it himself.  Unless I can verify it myself via other, corroborating sources I'll rake a pass on proclaiming that this is TRUTH.  The New York Times has fallen on hard times concerning their credibility.

 

But, here's the last line to their article:

 

“The senior editors at The Post made the decision to publish the Biden files after several days’ hard work established its merit,” Mr. Allan said in an email.

 

“The story was vetted and The Post stands by its reporting,” a Post spokeswoman said in a statement.

 

So I ask you again, "Where's your evidence that it wasn't vetted?  Making that up?"

Where is your evidence that it was vetted?

 

Really, Eric, this insistence that it wasn't vetted is becoming ludicrous.  The fact that it's been vetted is coming from the horse's mouth, not some unnamed, unknown source.  What does it take before you actually accept the truth?  Because if the truth itself isn't convincing enough then please tell me what would be convincing to you?

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11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The subject of the thread is in the opening post, let me know if you are having trouble finding it.

You jumped in on a discussion between me and Eric to add your two cents but your two cents had nothing to do with what Eric and I were discussing.  So you respond to my asking you what point your contribution was attempting to make, please clarify, and you give me this reply?

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4 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Really, Eric, this insistence that it wasn't vetted is becoming ludicrous.  The fact that it's been vetted is coming from the horse's mouth, not some unnamed, unknown source.  What does it take before you actually accept the truth?  Because if the truth itself isn't convincing enough then please tell me what would be convincing to you?

Vetted; does that mean data forensically examined by independent IT specialists? If not the 'vetting' is without worth.

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4 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 trump has accused the Biden family of criminality, without any evidence presented. Every day trump is practising 'abuse of power' without any repercussion whatsoever; IMO there are serious flaws within the US judicial system that enables seriously corrupt activities by a President. One hopes when Biden achieves power he will insist on legislation to stop such activity.

 

So far there has not been forensically proven evidence presented in the public domain to support accusations against the two Biden's, only partisan opinion. If innocent, the Biden campaign could be seriously damaged. The FBI IT forensic team must confirm one way or the other, in the next day or so, the credibility of the data from the laptop/s. If proven to be fraudulent trump should, at the very least, immediately fire Giuliani.

I agree. However, I doubt there is no evidence. 

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14 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 trump has accused the Biden family of criminality, without any evidence presented. Every day trump is practising 'abuse of power' without any repercussion whatsoever; IMO there are serious flaws within the US judicial system that enables seriously corrupt activities by a President. One hopes when Biden achieves power he will insist on legislation to stop such activity.

 

So far there has not been forensically proven evidence presented in the public domain to support accusations against the two Biden's, only partisan opinion. If innocent, the Biden campaign could be seriously damaged. The FBI IT forensic team must confirm one way or the other, in the next day or so, the credibility of the data from the laptop/s. If proven to be fraudulent trump should, at the very least, immediately fire Giuliani.

I doubt very much the fbi will say one way or the other this close to an election. They learnt their lesson last time.

 

As it stands, its nothing to do with Joe anyway.

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17 minutes ago, candide said:

There are two interesting facts in this story:

- the original computer file has not been given to  the NY Post only pdf files

- the information has been given to a minor player (NY Post).

 

The first fact raises legitimate doubt about about those files.

The second fact is also puzzling. Why did Giuliani give it only to the NY Post, and not to all media. Even in case he wanted only to give it to "friendly" media, why not give it to Fox News which a much larger impact? Could it be that even Fox News would not have accepted it? Actually, the current arrangement is quite good for Fox News: it can go full steam about it without bearing any responsibility, as it's always " according to the N.Y. Post"

 

 

The FBI supposedly have the original hard drives.  Copies were made and given to Giuliani's lawyer.

 

In any case, so much consideration given to everything other than the content of the emails and verifying those contents.  The emphasis here is no different than what it was when emails were released by Wikileaks in 2016.  The actual content was ignored and all of the unimportant aspects were focused on (in order to take attention away from the content - same today).  Regardless, at least one of the emails was verified by one of the recipients of that email.  Other emails which contain information about Hunter Biden's travels have had at least a number of those travels verified by cross referencing with Secret Service logs of Hunter's trips.

 

My feeling is that the MSM will do everything in their power to cast doubt on the validity of these laptop hard drive copies until election day.  I don't think they'll be able to hold out.  In my opinion I think these drives will be conclusively validated before then.

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