webfact Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Road over Kata Hill dangerously damaged by heavy rains By The Phuket News Heavy rains washed away the earth supporting the outer lane, leading to the outer part of the lane to collapse. Photo: Phathada Sae-Lim / Facebook PHUKET: Motorists are urged to exercise caution while driving westbound over Kata Hill after heavy rains washed away the earth supporting the outer The outer part of the westbound lane has started to collapse. The outer lane has been closed, allowing only one lane of traffic through from Chalong to Kata. Source: https://www.thephuketnews.com/road-over-kata-hill-dangerously-damaged-by-heavy-rains-77648.php -- © Copyright Phuket News 2020-10-15 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post keith101 Posted October 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2020 This is what happens when you build roads on edges of mountains on top of loose soil 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 That specific part has been a problem quite a few times before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schlog Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Kata hill....Patong hill.....@Amari hill....Phuket hub of collapsing roads. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steelepulse Posted October 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, schlog said: Kata hill....Patong hill.....@Amari hill....Phuket hub of collapsing roads. And multi million baht signs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LivinginKata Posted October 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2020 No money spent on sturdy rebars. I see no tie-ins from retaining wall to road, or any sort of reinforcement to prevent soil erosion under the road. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Safe & sealed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 5 hours ago, stevenl said: That specific part has been a problem quite a few times before. So nothing learnt then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkt83100 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, hotchilli said: So nothing learnt then? Doesn't the acknowledgement of learning imply a loss of face? Like confessing you were not very wise before? Mmmmh... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy one Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 How much money will be given away this time to do the repairs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana7 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) Typical Thailand quality build. Build it to look nice at the cheapest possible cost, get paid, walk away. Forget about durability, safety, and reliability and maintenance. Same quality build on Koh Chang, and probably some other roads in Thailand. Edited October 16, 2020 by Banana7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Mrs SP says the road was closed when trying to go from Chalong to Kata this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 3:18 PM, LivinginKata said: No money spent on sturdy rebars. I see no tie-ins from retaining wall to road, or any sort of reinforcement to prevent soil erosion under the road. Why would they do that? That would stop future work for the contractor and a brown envelope to the people that hand out the contracts. It's called a long term business plan, and it succeeds. As Stevenl has already pointed out, that exact piece of road has been "fixed" multiple times since they built the road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billythehat Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 9:18 AM, LivinginKata said: No money spent on sturdy rebars. I see no tie-ins from retaining wall to road, or any sort of reinforcement to prevent soil erosion under the road. Sir, my humble opinion on the matter. The transverse shear failure shown in the photo shows a fatal design flaw and poor construction method. The surface metal shows a shallow depth flexible construction method not suited for the location. When flexible construction is used in locations like this, there is no scope for movement/expansion of the running metal surface, and, where subject to excessive lateral loads, will fail as shown. The fracture also clearly shows wholly inadequate base courses to the top running course. If properly constructed foundations had been installed, the failure would likely have not have been so pronounced. Your comment about the lack of rebar; rebar is not installed in the above construction type and the edge kerb upstands would be bedded on a separate foundation. The upstands are not tied to the road construction as the two constructions would settle at different rates and there would be no bond with the rebar and base course in the flexible road construction. I would suggest that piled foundations with a capping beam arrangement be used to support a flexible reinforced road construction. This type of road construction comprises reinforced cocrete slabs that are joined with expansion/contraction joints that allow some movement of the running surface when under load. Without sight of the ground investigation report, I cannot comment further. The linked report says “no hab money etc.” so expect those cones to be there for a wee while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Somtamnication Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Lets hope they dont drive these ambassadors around that road, not good for the image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Looked to me like it had deteriorated further when I drove past yesterday. They should ban trucks and buses for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventenio Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 very surprised.......since all the buildings are built to code and really hold up well!!! plus the sidewalks are really excellent. and the bike paths having metal grates all over the place really tells me that the planning commission is top notch. should i go on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunKenAP Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Only in Thailand would they not close the road! They will wait until a few people are killed when it does collapse as a cement truck drives over it at rush hour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 the best way to shore up roads (aside from the flex seal of course) is to continue to undercut them ONLY from the bottom - this is the furthest point from the road & therefore can cause no harm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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