COVID-19 is not going away soon or ever

[scammed 1,765]

4 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

Stop posting fake news

stop lying and projecting,

i post updated statistics that demonstrate death rate are dropping in sweden,

you post cases that may well be the result of increased testing altogether. those who carry it in sweden arent harmed by the virus, which is to say herd immunity is achieved in sweden

[Jeffr2 8,518]

11 hours ago, scammed said:

no, its dropping in sweden

Stop posting incorrect information.  CV19 deniers point to Sweden as the holy grail.  It's been pointed out that they are way worse off than their nearest neighbors.  And yes, it's spiking again.  NOT dropping.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

[Jeffr2 8,518]

56 minutes ago, scammed said:

stop lying and projecting,

i post updated statistics that demonstrate death rate are dropping in sweden,

you post cases that may well be the result of increased testing altogether. those who carry it in sweden arent harmed by the virus, which is to say herd immunity is achieved in sweden

The death rate is dropping, but the number of cases is rising.  And deaths tend to trail that rise by 2-4 weeks.

 

Sweden doesn't have herd immunity!

[scammed 1,765]

41 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Stop posting incorrect information.  CV19 deniers point to Sweden as the holy grail.  It's been pointed out that they are way worse off than their nearest neighbors.  And yes, it's spiking again.  NOT dropping.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

no, they are 2nd best compared to the neighbors

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data?country=BEL~DNK~FRA~DEU~IRL~NOR~SWE

[scammed 1,765]

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Edited October 22, 2020 by scammed

[scammed 1,765]

2 minutes ago, scammed said:

except death rate doesnt tend to trail numbers of cases in sweden, death has flatlined.

ed: i mean death due to covid has flatlined, death from all other sort if reasons continue business as usual,

so i expect death will go on as it has been doing for eternity,

so far there is no indication covid had any implication whatsoever,

despite what the drama queens will want you believe

 

Edited October 22, 2020 by scammed

[Fat is a type of crazy 1,144]

17 hours ago, PatrickC said:

If lockdowns worked so well, why has covid spread so far and wide globally?

Even in China, it keeps popping up. NZ and Vietnam it has popped back up as well. And Thailand - no real proof that it went away as no mass testing. 

 

I'm sorry but we're all over lockdowns. No more - we're done with them. Time to move on and give up on trying something that is just a waste of time and ruins the economy.

 

You're really extremely fixed on your views. That is clear. And you've the right to be. However we've also the right to oppose them, and it doesn't make up "grannie killers", "fascists" or whatever other accusations you want to sling at us. Throwing names at people with different opinions achieves nothing. Give it up.

New Zealand has had a highly successful lockdown. They have had a little flare up of 25 cases today which they should be able to target through tracing and get the numbers back down. If they had no lockdown who knows where they'd be. Likely a lot worse than 27 deaths. 

New Zealand is an island country,  with low population compared to crowded European cities etc, and most people supported a tough lockdown so it worked.

There's more evidence of masks being effective too. Czechia brought in masks early and got the cases down quickly but, since they stopped wearing them, cases have gone out of control.

I take your point that lockdowns have a huge cost. I am in Melbourne and from this Sunday we should be able to do most things with around 5 cases per day. It has worked but at a big cost. I personally think it's worth it.

Better to be in Melbourne than in Prague or in many European and US cities that are out of control. If Trump had've just gone all in 6 months ago, and made certain behaviour mandatory for a time e.g. masks,  instead of playing politics, they could've done a lot better, in my opinion.

 

 

Edited October 22, 2020 by Fat is a type of crazy

[polpott 5,252]

10 minutes ago, PatrickC said:

 

Maybe it is just not that dangerous to the Thai population, so there are no bodies?

Any more wild theories in your locker? Thais originated from another planet? Somtam acts as a vaccine?

[FarFlungFalang 9,046]

1 hour ago, polpott said:

Any more wild theories in your locker? Thais originated from another planet? Somtam acts as a vaccine?

Funnily enough Somtam and the fish intensive diet of Isaan is rich in vitamin D which is thought to be a major contributing factor in the immune system.Notice there are no reported Covid deaths in Laos and the Isaan region there are very few reported deaths.So it's quite possible that Somtam acts as a vaccine.

[FarFlungFalang 9,046]

30 minutes ago, PatrickC said:

 

Don't suggest a theory which contradicts their groupthink that lockdowns solve everything. You'll get shouted at and called a grannie killer soon enough.

I'm hard of hearing so the shouting just sounds normal to me.I read an article that said they can't do proper vaccine trials because not enough people are getting sick enough to indicate possible outcomes of the trials.That's a bit of an indicator of the severity of this virus which is less than the severity of the fear.

[balo 12,655]

The Spanish flu was  widespread 90 years ago , people still remember it today but they are not afraid of it because the virus disappeared a few years later. 

Same will happen to COVID-19, we will remember it but it will not affect us 10 years from now!  

[polpott 5,252]

1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Funnily enough Somtam and the fish intensive diet of Isaan is rich in vitamin D which is thought to be a major contributing factor in the immune system.Notice there are no reported Covid deaths in Laos and the Isaan region there are very few reported deaths.So it's quite possible that Somtam acts as a vaccine.

You get enough vitamin D from normal amounts of sunlight and a normal diet. Its been proved that, for most people,vitamin D supplements add nothing to you for Covid protection. Some people in the UK have been prosecuted for advertising vitamin D supplements as a prevention for Covid.

[polpott 5,252]

31 minutes ago, balo said:

The Spanish flu was  widespread 90 years ago , people still remember it today but they are not afraid of it because the virus disappeared a few years later. 

Same will happen to COVID-19, we will remember it but it will not affect us 10 years from now!  

Those of us that are still alive. Spanish flu killed 50 million people.

[balo 12,655]

12 minutes ago, polpott said:

Those of us that are still alive. Spanish flu killed 50 million people

 

Yes it did, but we did not have social media back in 1920.   So we wouldn't know .   

People lived their lives almost like normal , they were more worried about getting food on the table than a virus. 

Edited October 22, 2020 by balo

[polpott 5,252]

3 minutes ago, balo said:

 

Yes it did, but we did not have social media back in 1920.   So we wouldn't know .   

People lived their lives almost like normal , they were more worried about getting food on the table than a virus. 

Again untrue. It caused major fear and panic. Plenty of info on the internet.