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Not like a regular flu at all. They want masks and distancing to be permanent. None of that happened for regular flu or any other diseases, far as I know. I'm happy to go back to life as pre coro

eventually, everyone will copy sweden and move on as it was a year ago, but its bitter and humiliating for politicians around the world to admit they committed high treason on their own coun

Not to mention that they have destroyed their countries' already fragile economies, that will need years to recover, if ever...

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10 minutes ago, polpott said:

The popular theory is that Covid jumped from bats to pangolin to humans. Same process. SARS was around for 2 years and just disappeared. Spanish flu in the early 1900s also disappeared after a couple of years.

 

Interestingly, Oxford University, who are at the forefront of current research into a Covid vaccine, were close to developing a vaccine for SARS when it disappeared and their research was discontinued. However the research they did gave them a head start on finding a vaccine for Covid.

 

My point is that if SARS and Spanish flu can disappear as quickly as they appeared, it points away from Covid being around "forever".

My understanding is a variation of the Spanish Flu is still with us.

 

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30 minutes ago, Henryford said:

The average age of Covid deaths in the UK is 82. I don't it as any problem at all.

It's not just about deaths.  It's also about the long term effects.  Which aren't 100% known right now.

 

Glad you care about the elderly. 😝.  Selfish.

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4 hours ago, Dinkus said:

It may not get completely eradicated, but it will get under control at some point, hopefully sooner than later. 

Problem is that only total eradication of the China virus will eradicate the hysteria. In NSW where I am, we’ve only had a handful of daily positive tests for months now, which I’d think is a pretty good definition of being under control, but we’re still in full panic mode. We’re cursed by the extraordinary sensitivity of the PCR test.

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1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/09/01/1918-flu-pandemic-end/

 

‘The 1918 flu is still with us’: The deadliest pandemic ever is still causing problems today

"Descendants of the 1918 H1N1 virus make up the influenza viruses we’re fighting today.

“The 1918 flu is still with us, in that sense,”

 

That's true of all common flu viruses, including 1918 H1N1 virus. In the form that devastated the planet in 1918, 1918 H1N1 no longer exists. A bit of creative writing there.

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Civet Cats sort of lost their appeal as a food with SARS.

 

Dead Civit cats are regularly for sale in my local market in Luang Prabang 😲

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5 minutes ago, polpott said:

"Descendants of the 1918 H1N1 virus make up the influenza viruses we’re fighting today.

“The 1918 flu is still with us, in that sense,”

 

That's true of all common flu viruses, including 1918 H1N1 virus. In the form that devastated the planet in 1918, 1918 H1N1 no longer exists. A bit of creative writing there.

Creative writing?  Come on.  Even Covid-19 is mutating as we speak.  Viruses are creative.

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35 minutes ago, polpott said:

The popular theory is that Covid jumped from bats to pangolin to humans. Same process. SARS was around for 2 years and just disappeared. Spanish flu in the early 1900s also disappeared after a couple of years.

 

Interestingly, Oxford University, who are at the forefront of current research into a Covid vaccine, were close to developing a vaccine for SARS when it disappeared and their research was discontinued. However the research they did gave them a head start on finding a vaccine for Covid.

 

My point is that if SARS and Spanish flu can disappear as quickly as they appeared, it points away from Covid being around "forever".

Spanish Flu is an H1N1 flu and still remains around, although it is mutated.  In general (but not always), viral infections move from more deadly to less deadly.   Flu strains are constantly changing but they are divided into specific categories, so if we get the right combination for a vaccine, we can control it.   
SARS 'disappearance' was somewhat mysterious.   But we don't that it doesn't remain in a reservoir animal, whether it's bats or Civet Cats or some other species.   SARS also affected Asians more than non-Asians.   

Covid is highly infectious, and although deadly, it's not deadly enough to kill itself off.   It is also transmitted before symptoms appear, which makes it quite a sneaky virus.  It's got the make up that is ideal for remaining for a long time.   

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Just now, Jeffr2 said:

Creative writing?  Come on.  Even Covid-19 is mutating as we speak.  Viruses are creative.

Its not mutating significantly enough for a vaccine to be ineffectual.

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1 minute ago, polpott said:

Its not mutating significantly enough for a vaccine to be ineffectual.

That remains to be seen as we don't even have a jab yet.  Who knows if it will work or not?  Nobody.

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5 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

That remains to be seen as we don't even have a jab yet.  Who knows if it will work or not?  Nobody.

Oxford University know. They are well on in Stage 3 of the trials and the results so far are excellent. So much so that several governments are stockpiling it already. Should start to be rolled out by Christmas.

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6 minutes ago, polpott said:

Oxford University know. They are well on in Stage 3 of the trials and the results so far are excellent. So much so that several governments are stockpiling it already. Should start to be rolled out by Christmas.

You mean the trial that was halted due to a sickness?  Stage 3 trials normally go on for years.  For good reasons.  Frankly, I won't be one of the first in line for any jab.  And since it's a new virus, they still don't know everything about it.  Only time will tell.  And for us here in Thailand, good luck getting a jab this year.  Never happen.

 

Some great info here:

https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-vaccine-what-we-know-so-far-a-comprehensive-guide-by-academic-experts-147881

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