Popular Post webfact Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 Chula virologist unravels mystery of global Covid death tolls By The Nation Dr Yong Poovorawan A specialist in virology at Chulalongkorn University has highlighted the huge differences in Covid-19 death tolls from country to country across the globe. Dr Yong Poovorawan said that that China had registered 200 times fewer Covid-19 deaths per million people than the US. The area of the globe with the highest Covid-19 death toll was the Americas, with the US recording 659 deaths per million and Brazil recording 708, he added in a Facebook post on Friday. "In Europe, the UK and Spain's death per million people are 600 and 696, respectively," he said. "In Asia, India's death toll per million people is 79 – higher than China where the Covid-19 outbreak has killed just three people per million. “Thailand's deaths per million people is 0.9," he added. Dr Yong said the huge differences in Covid-19 death tolls were due to various factors, including median age of the population, Covid-19 prevention methods and DNA. "Most Covid-19 patients are old, while the median age of Americans is definitely higher than Indians," he said, adding that Japan's Covid-19 death toll is only 13 people per million despite its high median age. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30396320 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-10-16 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, webfact said: China where the Covid-19 outbreak has killed just three people per million 2 minutes ago, webfact said: Most Covid-19 patients are old, while the median age of Americans is definitely higher than Indians," he said, adding that Japan's Covid-19 death toll is only 13 people per million despite its hi Well, that's interesting to see China where the virus emerged from has a very low death rate. Could that be because of a cover up. 17 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmitch Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 Aaaargh, it's 'im! This time he's doing no more than quoting well-known statistics and theories. Hardly unravelling a mystery is it? 20 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Susco Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 So the US death toll is high because of high median age, while the Japan death toll is very low, despite the high median age, The only mystery revealed here is that the guy wanted his 5 minutes of fame, but actually has no idea what he's drivelling about, and that wasn't a mystery either 20 6 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 This is hardly the 'great unraveling' I expected - he read a couple of charts, that is all. He should go on to explain why, no matter, I'll summarise : To me it appears that the more successful a country is at keeping its elderly people alive into very old age - the more deaths there will be from COVID. This is something that most of Asia really sucks at, they die much younger - this is the reason for the 'great Asian success' - they're already dead due to constant neglect throughout their lives. 16 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Susco said: So the US death toll is high because of high median age, while the Japan death toll is very low, despite the high median age, The only mystery revealed here is that the guy wanted his 5 minutes of fame, but actually has no idea what he's drivelling about, and that wasn't a mystery either Japan is a bit of an anomaly here, I expect it's due to some other factor, like adhering strictly to rules that prevent infection. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poskat Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) the median age in both the US and china is 38 years old median age in thailand is 39 Edited October 16, 2020 by poskat 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Misterwhisper Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 Okay, let me try and get this straight: >>> In the United States the death toll is high because of a high median age, >>> In India the death toll is lower than in the United States because of a lower median age. >>> But in Japan the death toll is considerably lower than in both the U.S. and India despite a high median age, So what "mystery" has he actually "unraveled"? All I see here is a contradiction. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, ukrules said: This is hardly the 'great unraveling' I expected - he read a couple of charts, that is all. He should go on to explain why, no matter, I'll summarise : To me it appears that the more successful a country is at keeping its elderly people alive into very old age - the more deaths there will be from COVID. This is something that most of Asia really sucks at, they die much younger - this is the reason for the 'great Asian success' - they're already dead due to constant neglect throughout their lives. you may, to an extent, have a point, however 'asia' is too general as Japan has a large percentage of the population in old age, and i'd suspect korea too. but in developing asian countries for sure there are not the medical facilities and expertise, or investment (?) in healthcare for the elderly. i'd also argue many who live with underlying medical conditions in the west dont, unfortunately, have that opportunity in many asian countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guderian Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 Does anybody actually believe that the Indian and Chinese statistics are an accurate reflection of the reality? 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mark131v Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 Aaah Doctor Yong doing what he does best, namely getting his 5 minutes of fame and not much else, I am sure they will have the other fella along soon to spread a bit of fear too... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangless Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, Guderian said: Does anybody actually believe that the Indian and Chinese statistics are an accurate reflection of the reality? Does anybody actually believe that any/most statistics are an accurate reflection of the reality? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 59 minutes ago, poskat said: the median age in both the US and china is 38 years old median age in thailand is 39 Average age of death........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swimfan Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 Wow this guy is a genius 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Flying Saucage Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) Poster ukrules just posted this interesting paper in another thread: https://jvi.asm.org/content/88/14/7692 This is a scientific article which unravels quite well some of the mechanisms why other countries with other climatic conditions have different numbers of seasonal flu infections, and it seems quite viable to extend these insights also to the Corona virus. It gives some hints why Thailand regionally might be in a more lucky situation as well. I have some doubts if this "expert" Yong ever reads somehing like this, otherwise he would debate on higher standards and should feel quite embarrassed himselve by his dumb weekly gossip. Reading his gossip between the lines shows again his strong and hardly hidden anti-western racism and his aim to boost xenobhobia against caucasians in Thailand. Edited October 16, 2020 by Flying Saucage 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Swimfan said: Wow this guy is a genius Most of these guys couldn't hold a job as toilet cleaners in the west. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Thai Scofield pops up to give us all great news of his wisdom whilst of course praising China in bizarrely and unexpectedly low figures ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Guderian said: Does anybody actually believe that the Indian and Chinese statistics are an accurate reflection of the reality? It just mean that in these countries; ALL the deaths of Old Aged are actually recorded truly, as Old Aged natural deaths... Capitalist-thinking pharma indusytries know they can make a whole heap more $$$ out of Boosting the so called Wuhan Flu death numbers - and a reflected magical reduction of Old Aged natural, common cold,and flu deaths deaths have near ceased to exist The OP twerp googler is making some thing into the impression that his regional race genes (DNA) are stronger than others... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aroiaroi Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) The journalist is dramatizing the headlines for clicks, or more kindly, something has been lost in translation. He may also be as others suggest, premature. This virus has baffled our best epidemiologists. It will take years before the dust settles and we really understand it. Probably from a settled statistical perspective. Edited October 16, 2020 by aroiaroi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: Chula virologist unravels mystery of global Covid death tolls Where did he explain anything? He just piled up a big mass of differences. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 Doesn't much make sense including the pre-June figures now. Countries were scrambling to do something, anything, and it was pretty much down to luck. What matters is the current hospitalization rates and recovery rates. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redvic Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Well, that's interesting to see China where the virus emerged from has a very low death rate. Could that be because of a cover up. Yep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 16 hours ago, Guderian said: Does anybody actually believe that the Indian and Chinese statistics are an accurate reflection of the reality? It's been widely reported that almost every countries stats are low. I saw a report that India could be 10x what they are reporting. As for China? Who knows, but if it was a problem, you'd hear about it. Hard to hide corpses piling up outside hospitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: It's been widely reported that almost every countries stats are low. I saw a report that India could be 10x what they are reporting. As for China? Who knows, but if it was a problem, you'd hear about it. Hard to hide corpses piling up outside hospitals. not if you have total control and leave many to die in the villages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, bodga said: not if you have total control and leave many to die in the villages Luckily, they don't have "total" control. Pics and info still gets out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 An off topic troll post removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 17 hours ago, madmitch said: This time he's doing no more than quoting well-known statistics and theories. Hardly unravelling a mystery is it? He has been anointed by the powers that be. His message's for the masses, is approved up on high, in the rarefied air where only PuYais dwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanuk711 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 17 hours ago, Guderian said: Does anybody actually believe that the Indian and Chinese statistics are an accurate reflection of the reality? I can understand the skepticism about China....but why India, its reporting well over a 100K deaths, which seems consistent with its neighbor Pakistan with over 60K deaths . Most Asian countries seem to be fairing better than the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 We see him and we know: It's Saturday again ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxx Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 18 hours ago, Guderian said: Does anybody actually believe that the Indian and Chinese statistics are an accurate reflection of the reality? Does anybody actually believe that the American statistics are accurate, given Trump's efforts to suppress testing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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