KhunKenAP Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Wonder what the picture would look like if deaths from COVID were properly reported in China and Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Far from unraveling the mystery, this is neither very scientific nor does it really explain the huge spreads seen between countries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 He actually hasn't unraveled anything, he's just made a few completely anodyne observations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPhibes Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 19 hours ago, Susco said: So the US death toll is high because of high median age, while the Japan death toll is very low, despite the high median age, The only mystery revealed here is that the guy wanted his 5 minutes of fame, but actually has no idea what he's drivelling about, and that wasn't a mystery either "Look Scooby, it was old man Poovorawan all along!" "...and I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling Falang" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza2002 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Doctor Yong has cracked it, the guy is a genius... Should be nominated for the Nobel Prize in Medicine, or has that accolade already been given to Anutin? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poskat Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 19 hours ago, ukrules said: Average age of death........ no...... he said median age of the population, not of those dying and you might also take the time to look at what is the difference between average (the mean) and median Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 20 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Well, that's interesting to see China where the virus emerged from has a very low death rate. Could that be because of a cover up. It also depends on whether a million are in one hi-rise block or spread over a small town. Contraction rates would be different as would the death rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 18 hours ago, Matzzon said: Where did he explain anything? He just piled up a big mass of differences. It's not the content that matters it's getting something published that's important. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Tracy Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Does anybody care what this guy says? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DekDaeng Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, ukrules said: Japan is a bit of an anomaly here, I expect it's due to some other factor, like adhering strictly to rules that prevent infection. Japs are 'at home' in a mask - went there mid '80s, was surprised / shocked to see so many in the streets wearing what appeared to be sanitary napkins - Edited October 17, 2020 by DekDaeng 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikao Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Few days ago I saw a report about these differences of deaths in different countries. They brought it down to different treatments of patients. One of the examples was Switzerland. While there where few deaths within the German speaking population, Italian and French speaking parts had significantly higher numbers. Reason given was that the Italian and French parts where following the medication scheme of these countries, which is an extremly toxic coctail of several drugs subministered in high overdosis and the use of "off label" medicines. + when they put you on a ventilator your chances to die rise by 50%. Same with Portugal and Spain. One follows the scheme, other one doesn't and it refleccts in numbers. They ironically asked if the virus in Switzerland was racist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Statistics with the virus are hard to be accurate about, seems some countries may be under reporting numbers, whilst others are assigning just about any death to covid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Purdey Posted October 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2020 21 hours ago, fangless said: Does anybody actually believe that any/most statistics are an accurate reflection of the reality? As the general said, there are lies, damned lies and statistics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairieboy Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 22 hours ago, webfact said: Chula virologist unravels mystery of global Covid death tolls I didn't spot any unravelling after reading the story twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter zwart Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Solid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woogoo Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Oxx said: Does anybody actually believe that the American statistics are accurate, given Trump's efforts to suppress testing? Considering the US has tested more than anywhere else in the world he’s doing a pretty bad job at suppressing testing. Thailand, on the other hand.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post woogoo Posted October 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2020 19 hours ago, DrTuner said: Doesn't much make sense including the pre-June figures now. Countries were scrambling to do something, anything, and it was pretty much down to luck. What matters is the current hospitalization rates and recovery rates. There was an article earlier this year which covered how almost all of the reporting on the virus in Thailand was coming from Xinhua news agency. I wonder if the good doctor here gets his talking points from the same people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourmanflint Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 If this guy ever gets bored of being an expert, he would make a great horror movie star. "Chula Phi Khao" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Saucage Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, woogoo said: There was an article earlier this year which covered how almost all of the reporting on the virus in Thailand was coming from Xinhua news agency. I wonder if the good doctor here gets his talking points from the same people. Quite sure! There is this toxic brotherhood of the Thai generals and the CCP. Xinhua is a propaganda tool of the CCP, and it took over already the reporting not only on Covid in most of the Thai media. These two hardcore scaremongers Yong and Thira are quite obviously part of this propaganda machinery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermin on arrival Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 22 hours ago, ukrules said: Japan is a bit of an anomaly here, I expect it's due to some other factor, like adhering strictly to rules that prevent infection. I think low obesity rates and generally healthier population is the main cause...maybe genetics, maybe more exposure to coronaviruses...everything i heard about japan was that internally things were more lax there than elsewhere in Asia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 hour ago, pikao said: Few days ago I saw a report about these differences of deaths in different countries. They brought it down to different treatments of patients. One of the examples was Switzerland. While there where few deaths within the German speaking population, Italian and French speaking parts had significantly higher numbers. Reason given was that the Italian and French parts where following the medication scheme of these countries, which is an extremly toxic coctail of several drugs subministered in high overdosis and the use of "off label" medicines. + when they put you on a ventilator your chances to die rise by 50%. Same with Portugal and Spain. One follows the scheme, other one doesn't and it refleccts in numbers. They ironically asked if the virus in Switzerland was racist ... yes, interesting. https://www.thelocal.ch/20200417/why-has-latin-switzerland-been-so-heavily-affected-by-the-coronavirus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChouDoufu Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 22 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Well, that's interesting to see China where the virus emerged from has a very low death rate. Could that be because of a cover up. could be. could also be the ccp has the authority and the will to lock down the entire country if needed. if you can believe the sociable media videos, they went so far as to weld apartment doors shut when people refused to stay indoors in wuhan. they also have sufficient testing capacity. when the odd local transmission is detected, they are able to test entire cities of 5-10 million within a week, and will lock down apartment complexes, districts or cities as appropriate. half a billion people were traveling domestically during national day golden week, 1-8 october. after ten days, we should be seeing a huge spike right about now if the virus were running rampant in the countryside. so far, nothing. we had a short, modified lockdown here in hainan in january. fewer than 200 cases on the entire island. no restrictions now and life has returned to normal. rarely see anyone at the fever clinic outside the main hospital, mask use has dropped off, businesses are operating as before, no surge of funerals in the villages. i suppose it could be a big, fat cover up, but i've seen nothing to suggest that to be the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 4 hours ago, sanuk711 said: I can understand the skepticism about China....but why India, its reporting well over a 100K deaths, which seems consistent with its neighbor Pakistan with over 60K deaths . Most Asian countries seem to be fairing better than the west. ....because, overall, they tend to be warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangless Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Purdey said: As the general said, there are lies, damned lies and statistics. And a hell of a lot of Political practitioners worldwide, not just here in Thailand! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forresttrump Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 In the UK at the moment I believe if you test positive for Covid and get run over by a bus within 28 days of your test, you are added to the Covid death statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 3:31 PM, webfact said: A specialist in virology at Chulalongkorn University has highlighted the huge differences in Covid-19 death tolls from country to country across the globe. Virologist turned Epidemiologist? Virologist turned media-darling? Do make up your mind Dr. Yong as we are tiring of seeing your face pop up every other week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 3:31 PM, webfact said: Dr Yong said the huge differences in Covid-19 death tolls were due to various factors, including median age of the population, Covid-19 prevention methods and DNA. Huge difference in deaths? The huge difference in global metrics used to determine what constitutes an actual Covid-caused death. In the US - someone dies in a car crash but the body tests positive for SARS-Cov-2? Cause of death? "Covid-19." In Thailand - someone dies in a car crash but the body tests positive for SARS-Cov-2? Cause of death? "Trauma." Huge difference in "cases?" The huge difference in global testing. In the US - "Testing, testing, testing! Everyone needs a test! Even if you've no symptoms!" In Thailand - "Doctor, if have the sniffles and a sore throat." Don't worry - it's just a cold. But - let's wait until actual epidemiological surveys are conducted next year. My guess is the results will be damning - well, those that get to see the light of day that is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldie Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) On 10/16/2020 at 3:46 PM, Susco said: So the US death toll is high because of high median age, while the Japan death toll is very low, despite the high median age, The US people are more fat than the Japanese. So a higher amount of viruses can gather in their bigger bodies. Just my theory ???? Edited October 17, 2020 by Oldie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 23 hours ago, Flying Saucage said: I have some doubts if this "expert" Yong ever reads somehing like this, otherwise he would debate on higher standards and should feel quite embarrassed himselve by his dumb weekly gossip. Reading his gossip between the lines shows again his strong and hardly hidden anti-western racism and his aim to boost xenobhobia against caucasians in Thailand. I wonder if this fellow rocked up to some international conference or other, billing himself as an expert, spouted some drivel, and had the <deleted> taken mercilessly? It could explain rather a lot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OumarhindaOunsingha Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Great news! Groundbreaking! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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