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post 113, nanLaew

 

Maybe you should apply yourself and orient yourself on the lines I was answering?
Come on, an effort.
As for Pétrogaz who has among his best friends, blacks, this entitles him to a chocolate medal for having written it.
Very often, when we talk about Arabs or blacks with people, they are immediately on the defensive saying "I have black or Arab friends" for fear that they will be blamed if, by chance, they did not.
These people anticipate, what.
Personally, knowing very well the African, black, Arab mentality, they are not my best friends.
Happy!!!!!

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4 minutes ago, Opl said:

In France,  the State - that is to say The Republic - is separated from the Religion. 

Religion doesn't make decision for Schools programs.

People don't vote for a Religion

Religion is a private matter and should not impact our schools, workplaces etc..

In France, there is no blasphemy low, freedom of expression prevails. 

When a terror attack is committed by people in the name of their religion, it's an attack and a hate crime against - not the State- not the Republic-  but againt the country, against France.   

None of which addresses the point I made.
 

As far as I can see you tried to link that poll to a propensity to kill in the name of religion.
 

If you are not saying that then say so and we are good. 

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1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

None of which addresses the point I made.
 

As far as I can see you tried to link that poll to a propensity to kill in the name of religion.
 

If you are not saying that then say so and we are good. 

So you put Sharia law above all in a non Muslim country? Because Sharia Law is how the ideology organizes the society and the politics.

Get it? 

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Samuel PATY - 47

Each year, for three years, this professor has been in charge of this moral and civic education course on this Freedom of Expression theme, on the National Education program.

 

 

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2 hours ago, RocketDog said:

Still, the bottom line is that the native birthrate in France is unsustainably low and they need immigrants to support the retirement pensions of aging French citizens. So the motivation for opening the country to immigrants seems logical, but doing so without extreme discretion has proven unwise. 

It's ultimately short-sighted because the high birthrate of the Muslim immigrants will mean that soon they will be electing their own to government and eventually will simply defund the social system and phase in sharia law.

 

Human history is a long story of one culture subsuming another to extinction. The Japanese seem to be the least willing to accept this and are literally paying couples to have children, not just tax breaks. 

 

I've had spirited discussions with French citizens who fervently claim that the immigrants will embrace French culture and assimilate. In my opinion this is wishful thinking. Islam is not a religion, it is a way of life that will not be abandoned easily. Islam stresses assimilation but strictly one direction. 

 

This entire conundrum is common to several western EU countries and the results are in evidence in many, Germany being another example. 

 

For better or not the Islamization of Europe is underway and accelerating; France is not unique except in being farthest along in the process. Muslims are ~9% of the population today, over 6% in Germany, 8% in Sweden. This is one of the consequences of cradle-to-grave socialism. 

 

Pew Research Center statistics:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/11/29/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/

I've read Pew reports before. Projected birth dare for Muslims in Europe until 2030 is 1.5 per female PEW). As Muslims have greater access to stability, education and so on, birth rates drop. Off Topic, but Indonesia is a great example of prior very high birth rates, now education, access to medical care and so forth being more available, birth rates dropped dramatically. The matter has been 'debated' ad nauseam on TV, The Pew report for future Muslim population as of 2050 is at URL below. Percentage of Muslim population for Europe by 2050, at the highest rate is projected to be approx 14%, takes the wind out of the right of centre propaganda; being swamped blah, blah.

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/12/04/europes-muslim-population-will-continue-to-grow-but-how-much-depends-on-migration/

 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, 9653 said:

The Muslims need to be expelled, together with that nut alla.

They just don’t belong here amongst us.

Back to the Arab country, where they come from.

My grandmother always used to say, that if you want to go on a holiday, don’t go to arabia, You’ll come back with two black eyes, that’s if you come back at all

 

8 minutes ago, alien365 said:

Let us know what you think why don't you.

Your opinion sounds like it should stay in your grandparents era, but naturally I expect to hear such comments at times like this.

 

Agree generally alien365, though the teacher was perhaps a little naive and being being generous, unfortunately..

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22 minutes ago, Donga said:

Agree generally alien365, though the teacher was perhaps a little naive and being being generous, unfortunately..

It's been reported the teacher made all the right moves with acknowledging Islamic sensitivities, giving the pupils permission to leave during the segment on the cartoons and so on. Does sound like a possible act of ultimate betrayal by someone. The murder was cruel and appalling. We will have to wait and see what French security forces dig up on the killers background and if they identify any in his orbit are on the same ideological path.

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48 minutes ago, simple1 said:

I've read Pew reports before. Projected birth dare for Muslims in Europe until 2030 is 1.5 per female PEW). As Muslims have greater access to stability, education and so on, birth rates drop. Off Topic, but Indonesia is a great example of prior very high birth rates, now education, access to medical care and so forth being more available, birth rates dropped dramatically. The matter has been 'debated' ad nauseam on TV, The Pew report for future Muslim population as of 2050 is at URL below. Percentage of Muslim population for Europe by 2050, at the highest rate is projected to be approx 14%, takes the wind out of the right of centre propaganda; being swamped blah, blah.

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/12/04/europes-muslim-population-will-continue-to-grow-but-how-much-depends-on-migration/

 

 

 

I also saw the link you gave. It projects three possibilities based on how much migration occurs. Pretty subjective analysis. 

 

What happened in Indonesia is not necessarily predictive of what would occur in Europe either: apples and oranges. 

 

Also, the population rise over the last ten years is a fact, the figures you quote are projections, a guess. So it doesn't necessarily preclude anything. I never would have predicted what's happened the last four years in America. 

 

I don't personally fret much about what will happen in 2050 since I won't be here. 

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3 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Sure, but by no means do they indicate an alleged Muslim takeover of Europe - it's just out there extremist right wing hyperbole

the father of a student posted a video on  social media giving the adress of the teacher who has been beheaded -  is-it or not a muslim takeover on French National Education program?  ?  

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Just now, Opl said:

the father of a student posted a video on  social media giving the adress of the teacher who has been beheaded -  is-it or not a muslim takeover on French National Education program?  ?  

No

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Just now, simple1 said:

No

And so The Charlie Hebdo case as example of Freedom of Expression, in a course to students, including with Muslim roots is  OK and safe for other teachers? No risk of threats or other beheadings to come ?   I wouldn't bet.

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26 minutes ago, Opl said:

And so The Charlie Hebdo case as example of Freedom of Expression, in a course to students, including with Muslim roots is  OK and safe for other teachers? No risk of threats or other beheadings to come ?   I wouldn't bet.

Looks like I have a greater trust than you your fellow citizens will not succumb to possible threats.

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31 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Looks like I have a greater trust than you your fellow citizens will not succumb to possible threats.

The father of a fourth-grader had tried to launch a protest movement after the teacher gave a course on freedom of expression, including cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad published by Charlie Hebdo.
His daughter , schooled in fourth in the establishment, but not in the teacher's class, told, according to her father who took up her version in a video broadcast the day after the course, her "shock" when the teacher would have, according to her, asked the Muslim students to leave the classroom, because "he was going to show an image that might shock them." The student's parent, according to an elected official, launched his video "without consultation with other families who have children who follow this course and without inquiring whether his daughter was telling the truth or not". He then posted the teacher's name on Facebook. His call to protest at the College has first been supported by the Great Pantin Mosq (now condemning the killing). 

in addition to knowingly lying, the father knew the risks of publishing such a video,  with the precedent of Charlie Hebdo

No respect - no trust. 

 

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Imagine what the Christian religion would be like if we interpretated the Old Testament literally. There you have Islam. To be honest, I tried to read The Koran in translation, couldn't get past the second chapter, The Cow.  You probably need to understand Arabic to get the full value, apparently it's very poetic. Now the Bible I've read a couple of times, a ripping good yarn as they say, ask Alex.

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1 hour ago, Opl said:

the father of a student posted a video on  social media giving the adress of the teacher who has been beheaded -  is-it or not a muslim takeover on French National Education program?  ?  

he should be held guilty for incitement to murder and put away.

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4 hours ago, Bluespunk said:
7 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Aren't real, proper Muslims forbidden to have non Muslim friends , as written in the Koran ?

No. 

13 verses from the koran exhorting muslims not to take the kafir as a friend:
https://www.theunitedwest.org/2017/10/14/the-13-verses-that-reveal-that-a-muslim-is-not-the-friend-of-a-kafir/

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