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There will be no downside to Brexit, only considerable upside. David Davis   The day after we vote to leave we hold all the cards and can choose the path we want. Michael Gove

Why should the EU negotiate with an ex-member, that voted to leave ? They should let Britain stand outside in the cold for twenty or twenty-five years. Then maybe let them back in, if they ask nicely.

Hilarious so if  those 27  countries  all had an 3  trillion economy it should   be  81   trillion instead of the paltry 18.4  trillion

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14 minutes ago, david555 said:

All ways are worth avoiding that problem created on the shortest route ... btw once arriving the shortest route , a long way driving was anyway there to do ...so by this simple bypass avoiding any paperwork and the U.K.road driving as E.U. to E.U territory is worth it also .

 

And helping our "best U.K.neighbor friends " 🙄 lorry traffic jam making smaller  😉

 

 

The problem could be solved by sticking a security seal on the cargo when the lorry embarks at.dover and removed at the port when it leaves uk.

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18 hours ago, david555 said:

Difficult about the fish ?....Here comes the answer ....i would even think is the original plan .....😎🤗

More worth than the fish...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/27/city-of-london-brexit-eu-finance-access-europe

 

Financial sector

 

City of London faces Brexit uncertainty over access to EU markets

UK’s failure to offer assurances over regulatory changes is causing delays, EU diplomats told

 

Daniel Boffey in Brussels

Fri 27 Nov 2020 16.14 GMT Last modified on Fri 27 Nov 2020 18.34 GMT

 

The City of London is facing fresh Brexit uncertainty after Brussels raised doubts over access to the EU market being granted by the end of the year for firms in any of the 26 areas of the financial services sector awaiting decisions.

 

Diplomats for the EU’s member states were told in a behind-closed-doors meeting in Brussels that the failure of the British government to offer assurances over regulatory changes after 1 January was holding up the so-called “equivalence decisions”.

 

A European commission official said it was unclear whether it was in the EU’s interests to go any further in providing access to the European market for those working out of the UK given the uncertainty.

 

 

 

Well, the silver lining is that it should lower housing prices in London & vicinity.

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1 hour ago, kingdong said:

The problem could be solved by sticking a security seal on the cargo when the lorry embarks at.dover and removed at the port when it leaves uk.

True..but by this way saving ruining your roads and lower road congestion for goods with  anyway not U.K. destination .

 

 

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8 hours ago, kingdong said:

The problem could be solved by sticking a security seal on the cargo when the lorry embarks at.dover and removed at the port when it leaves uk.

 Not really as the contents of the lorry would need to be checked and all the relevant forms filled in etc. when being loaded and unloaded. Similar to the TIR system.

 

Just moving the problem somewhere else, not solving it.

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On 11/30/2020 at 11:36 AM, Tofer said:

 

Don't be insulting - your arrogance knows no bounds.

 

You can woffle around inconsequential potential scenarios as much as you like but the FACT remains it was EU LAW that dictated the decision in this case.

 

Don't ask for proof, if you can't accept the truth of the answer.

 

 

The VIDEO report from Nigel Farage, that you choose to deride, is uncontestable evidence to the contrary, unlike the cosy office produced newspaper article you linked.

 

 

What part of "in difficulties" did the French / EU navy vessels not understand in the Farage videos?

 

The British Border Force vessels stopped them and picked them up IMMEDIATELY they entered UK waters. And before you start spouting that they asked to be picked up, you do not know that for certain. You watch the video and then try to justify this well managed exercise of escorting and transferring illegal / unsafe migrants across the French border into the UK.

 

 

Rather disingenuous I have to say, as I presume (because I'm not about to read International Maritime Law on the subject), this refers to seaworthy vessels going about their legal business.

 

Illegal migrants without passports being trafficked from a safe country in unsuitable, unseaworthy and dangerously overloaded dinghies is not legal or safe activity. Aside from the fact it is unconscionable activity to be aiding their passage to their potential death. 

 

Using your logic, I presume you consider the interception of drug traffickers and terrorists is breaking International Maritime Law...

 

How do the threats to impound Nigel Farage's vessel, for filming these activities, not transgress Int. Maritime Law?

 

 

Rubbish. And before you ask, I'm not about to trawl through 130 pages to disprove you're disingenuous statement - it's simply not worth the effort. I am not so pedantic, and have better things to do with my time.

Just about any use of your time would be better than making assertions unbacked by an independent source. You should have followed your rule about not wasting time before you made this post.

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From the Express......so just value it as coming from "the Express" 😂😂😂

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1366730/brexit-news-eu-uk-trade-deal-justice-ECHR-michel-barnier-boris-johnson-latest

 

Boris caves: UK gives in on Brexit red line, Barnier tells MEPs - 'British have accepted'

BORIS Johnson has agreed to keep Britain tied to European human rights rules in order to strike a trade and security deal with Brussels.

By Joe Barnes, Brussels Correspondent

07:38, Tue, Dec 1, 2020 | UPDATED: 08:39, Tue, Dec 1, 2020

Michel Barnier claimed the Prime Minister has accepted that future police and judicial co-operation must be underpinned by the European Convention of Human Rights. The Brussels diplomat said this has paved the way to finalising terms on a deal that will make it easier for Britain to extradite terrorists and share criminal data with the bloc. An agreement has been on the verge of completion for longer than a month since Lord Frost first signalled the UK would soften its stance.

 

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