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Brexit brinkmanship: Johnson says prepare for no-deal, cancels trade talks


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4 hours ago, Lormak said:

2021 is going to be fun!  UK free and independent. Pull up a chair get out the popcorn and watch the EU crash and burn!  I predict mass civil unrest across the EU and a collapse of the Euro.

The EU is sinking and the UK are rowing away in a lifeboat called 'Brexit'!

This crystal ball of yours, next week’s lottery numbers please or are you sticking to Leo because you like it?!

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There will be no downside to Brexit, only considerable upside. David Davis   The day after we vote to leave we hold all the cards and can choose the path we want. Michael Gove

Why should the EU negotiate with an ex-member, that voted to leave ? They should let Britain stand outside in the cold for twenty or twenty-five years. Then maybe let them back in, if they ask nicely.

Hilarious so if  those 27  countries  all had an 3  trillion economy it should   be  81   trillion instead of the paltry 18.4  trillion

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51 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Ha ha, your idea that the UK is the weakest party doesn't quite ring true now.

 

 

<a lot of populist talk deleted>

 

Please look at the FACTS...

 

Look of the % of UK exports going to the EU ->  43%

Look at the % of EU exports going to the UK -> 6.2%

 

A complete blockade of trade will be a complete shutdown of the UK economy. 6.2% you can survive, 43% not.

 

The UK has no cards. They must be even happy that the EU is willing to waste their time talking to them.

 

The latest rumors I heard about a no-deal Brexit are also bad for the UK. The EU is looking at financial services now performed in London. They want to refuse companies in the financial services from the UK (banks) to do business in the EU, a condition for doing business in the EU will be that they must have their headquarters in the EU. This is probably the end of London as a financial hub.

 

What will be left of the UK?  

 

 

 

 

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On 10/17/2020 at 4:16 AM, dimitriv said:

 

Exactly. Close the tunnel, cancel all flights, nothing in, and nothing out. Let them trade with the US and Australia, because it seems that's the only thing that will make them happy.

 

I am so tired of the UK.

 

 

My God someone with common sense and i applaud you. We never had this many problems when we werent in the EU before and this would be the best solution.

 

Only thing i would change is f*** closing the tunnel blow it up cut all ties.

 

Why are you tired of the UK its not as if your from the UK and its not as if you have to give a toss about what the UK does.

 

Does it affect you in any way or are you just retarded in saying your tired of the UK. Who really gives a toss if your tired of the UK.....lol clown.

 

Out of curiosity where you from then ? Probably Russia or the Eastern Block ? Humour me with an answer lol.

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9 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

But in the short term at least, the City will remain the top financial center of the world

 

Do you think so?  If a company in the financial services industry must choose between the UK as a home market, or the EU at their home market the choice will be simple and fast.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 your fish thieves

the "fish thieves" thing does not help: the 200 miles zone that the UK claims today was created long after the UK joined the EU (joined 1973, -- 200 miles zone 1982). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_economic_zone

 

there is no "reclaim our fish" it's a "claim" not a "reclaim". So it's a bit more complicated than "fish thieves", not just considering these people had their families fishing here for centuries.

 

 

... not that it is not legitimate to claim the fish today, but what was lost on cod for the UK was clearly won many times over in other fields.

 

 

 

If you look at the deal  on the table it is very attractive for the UK already :

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Barnier told ministers it was important to put the issue of access to British waters in perspective. The UK was asking to in effect stay part of the EU’s energy single market, the economic value of which was “five times” that of fish, he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/13/brexit-michel-barnier-mocks-boris-johnson-third-deadline-on-talks

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27 minutes ago, dimitriv said:

 

Do you think so?  If a company in the financial services industry must choose between the UK as a home market, or the EU at their home market the choice will be simple and fast.

 

 

Regarding financial services, in the short term the EU needs the UK e.g. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/2de23b12-5f77-44db-8e29-c3999491b2e7

 

Imo in the medium and longer term, EU member states will further develop their own (financial) services infrastructure, and will provide stronger competition to London.

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5 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Exactly! It´s hilarious that the buffon they have as a prime minister can´t explain to his people that they can´t decide to leave and then demand to have all the exclusive rights at the same time as a trade deal on their demands.

Utter nonsense!

Come on then, put some substance behind your spurious claims. What exactly is it that the UK are "demanding as exclusive rights" and what exactly is it the UK are demanding in terms of a special trade deal??

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