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There will be no downside to Brexit, only considerable upside. David Davis   The day after we vote to leave we hold all the cards and can choose the path we want. Michael Gove

Why should the EU negotiate with an ex-member, that voted to leave ? They should let Britain stand outside in the cold for twenty or twenty-five years. Then maybe let them back in, if they ask nicely.

Hilarious so if  those 27  countries  all had an 3  trillion economy it should   be  81   trillion instead of the paltry 18.4  trillion

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7 hours ago, Tofer said:
21 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Johnson has proven he signed the WA in bad faith, for sure.

 

In what way have the EU done so?

See post 434!

 Why? It contains no facts, let alone an answer to the question!

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/uk-pound-dollar-euro-rate-brexit-bill-104411954.html

 

Pound up as UK officials hint at rewrite of lawbreaking Brexit bill

Points of contention still lie around fair competition rules, dispute resolution and fisheries, with reports from Bloomberg that MPs have hinted they are willing to water down Johnson’s controversial Internal Markets bill.

 

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"If we don't get a deal EUR/GBP heads off somewhere between 0.95 and perhaps briefly the wrong side of parity as rates go sub-zero, But for now, the soap opera continues."

 

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23 minutes ago, vogie said:

Polls can be manipulated, the referendum wasn't.

Strange comment on a YouGov poll from the person who until their results started to go against him regularly posted YouGov polls as if they were Holy Writ.

 

Since the referendum more and more people have seen how Vote.Leave and others campaigning for leave based their campaigns by assuring us that the EU needed us more than we needed them. As the last four years have shown, that is simply not true.

 

The only thing I find difficult to believe is that there are still people who believe that lie!

 

Maybe they don't; maybe they are just to proud or ashamed to admit, even to themselves, how wrong they were.

 

But what's done is done; we are unfortunately out of the EU and one can only hope that eventually this country will recover from that mistake.

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48 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

just type "poll brexit regrets" on Google https://bit.ly/2Hf3mi7

 

you can choose the "news" section or also search images/graphs with "Bregret'" or whatever

 

the-closer-uk-gets-to-brexit-the-more-th

 

Oh dear, from The New European with no source reference. When I go to YouGov I can't find this. Wonder why?

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On 10/18/2020 at 4:02 AM, AndrewMciver said:

 

Which means a fall in the Pound will be even worst.

 

Do you ackowledge that the vote caused a 20% fall in the value of the pound? If you are denial by this FACT then there is no hope to even have a conversation.

 

Then all major forecasters are saying the Pound will collapse another 20% (minimum) - even a forced collapase to keep exports competative. 

 

And you are okay with this ? 

Major forecasters    lol    The pound will rise 50%  (minimum)   are you OK with this?

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15 minutes ago, Loiner said:

The EU made a threat that UK may not be on the Third Country List for imports into Northern Island. That's the EU not negotiating in good faith. 

No; it didn't.

 

The EU treated us the same as all third country list applicants by asking us for assurances about our food standards. 

 

From 23/9/20: UK satisfied EU won’t block food exports after Brexit..

 

24 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Boris has introduced the Internal Markets Bill to override that part of the WA if the EU don't keep to it. Good show Boris, now as we get closer to No Deal, ditch the whole WA

The EU, signs an international treaty and, despite extreme provocation, has shown no sign that it ever intends to break it.

 

Meanwhile Boris proclaims that agreement as an oven ready deal which will get Brexit done, wins an election on that promise, signs it with much self aggrandising fanfare and gets it enshrined in UK statute law via an Act of Parliament.

 

All the while with his fingers crossed behind his back!

 

Perfidious Albion, indeed.

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3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Oh dear, from The New European with no source reference. When I go to YouGov I can't find this. Wonder why?

 

 For the results that graph was drawn from, as well as all results up to 8/10/20, see this YouGov page. Results for In hindsight, do you think Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave the European Union?" start at the bottom of page 1.

 

You couldn't have looked very hard; all I did was put "YouGov poll: was UK right or wrong to leave the EU" into Google; took me to YouGov's Brexit page upon which was a link to the poll results!

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8 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

 For the results that graph was drawn from, as well as all results up to 8/10/20, see this YouGov page. Results for In hindsight, do you think Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave the European Union?" start at the bottom of page 1.

 

You couldn't have looked very hard; all I did was put "YouGov poll: was UK right or wrong to leave the EU" into Google; took me to YouGov's Brexit page upon which was a link to the poll results!

God. You're good.

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