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3 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Why do you keep posting these outdated and out of context memes? We debated those things about 4 years ago 🤦‍♂️

And like to forget them words said  if possible ….

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There will be no downside to Brexit, only considerable upside. David Davis   The day after we vote to leave we hold all the cards and can choose the path we want. Michael Gove

Why should the EU negotiate with an ex-member, that voted to leave ? They should let Britain stand outside in the cold for twenty or twenty-five years. Then maybe let them back in, if they ask nicely.

Hilarious so if  those 27  countries  all had an 3  trillion economy it should   be  81   trillion instead of the paltry 18.4  trillion

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15 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

The "tentacles" thing is a nice touch, but if the UE is the biggest problem of the UK today (I mean except for those of you who still believe the UK "holds all the cards"), the UK will have to deal with the tentacles of the US and the tentacles of China.

 

Up to you to choose what tentacles you prefer,  but mostly the UK could be entering now in a process of "Lebanization" : torn between bigger powers that each want to tear off a piece of you.

 

  • The US will impose their policy on the UK (ban chinese 5G, accept US food standard at the expense of you farmers).
  • Russia will keep using Novichok like in Amesbury.
  • China will continue breaking the joint declaration on Hong Kong and there's not much the UK can do because they break treaties too. 

Clearly it's a dangerous world for Global Britain.

Now the UK does have its own "tentacles" : what is your opinion on Northern Ireland and Scotland, all?

 

Considering these nations want "to take back control" and be a member of the UE, should they be free to do so? Do they have the right to hold an independence referendum or not?

US and China don't have tentacles which extend into our legislation, borders, resources and foreign policy. I'll take my chances with them rather than the EU.

 

The United Kingdom nations are just that, over hundreds of years. If you want to talk Republican or Indyref2 try it with one of the others. I'm not interested.

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17 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Good question, who exactly?

 

This is an ongoing survey taken at intervals but the limited sample size and other data seems to be only available for the start of it (2016). The results are pro remain at most intervals over the last 4 years. From the initial data, the weighting of sampling by geographical area is disproportionately high in London, the south of England and in Scotland, which probably explains why there is almost always a pro remin bias.

 

Difficult to have a poll on attitudes to the referendum result before the referendum result is known!

 

I can find nothing to substantiate your assertion that "the weighting of sampling by geographical area is disproportionately high in London, the south of England and in Scotland." Perhaps you'd be so kind as to show me where you found that information.

 

Pro Remain bias? No; pro Remain results.

 

Personally, as I've said before, I believe the only polls which count are those at the ballot box. But as opinion polls in general, and YouGov in particular, have been used many times in the past by Brexiteers to 'prove' how popular Brexit is, it is amusing that now they are showing the opposite some are trying to disassociate themselves from that organisation!

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31 minutes ago, Loiner said:

The EU threat to NI food supplies has been resolved by the IMB which is still passing through Parliament now.

 

The WA's long and perilous journey has long been documented in this forum. When Boris was elected as PM with a landslide victory and a mandate to Get Brexit Done he still had to get the WA through Parliament before we could actually exit at the end of January. Although he had a massive majority in the HOC, the HOL is still a nest of Remainer vipers. 

 

A few loopholes were still in the WA which he is now resolving, regardless of the current HOL meddling and attempts to prevent it. Even the boss vicars trying to stick their crooks into it now. The whole WA is the next to revoke as we leave No Deal.

 

Boris is enabling this country to hold its' head high in the world and fend of the combined efforts of the EU mafia and domestic fifth columnists. Next year Boris will be riding high and his advisors will be awarded Lordships to even up the ship of labour appointed fools.

 

 

 

 If Boris' treacherous IMB will resolve his supposed blockade of Northern Ireland, how come even Boris' government and negotiators have said no such threat of a blockade exists?

 

The European Union (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill was presented to Parliament on 19/12/19 and received Royal Assent on 23/1/21. A remarkable, virtually unpresented, short passage; especially when Parliament was in recess from 20/12/19 until 7/1/20. Not such a difficult journey!

 

If Boris' WA has so many loopholes in it, why did he present it as an oven ready deal before and after the election and celebrate it's signing with such enthusiasm? Lying, or incompetent?

 

If you truly believe that proving to the world that he and his government cannot be trusted is "enabling this country to hold its' head high in the world" then there really is no hope for you.

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42 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

Well I suppose you know how to find the polls you give us the figures ? Please tell us how many of the NI and Scots citizen : it is probably a hefty majority, even more than the English who now realise that Brexit was a terrible idea sold on lies ..

 

How can you deny them the right to vote in a referendum giving them the choice be free from the "tentacles" of the english, if they wish.

 

Are you afraid they would find it better to leave the UK and be part of the European Union?

Are you planning to have a referendum in France on EU membership as only  52% would vote to remain or is France afraid of the result of a referendum should French people ever be given the option of such a vote

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15 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Are you planning to have a referendum in France on EU membership as only  52% would vote to remain or is France afraid of the result of a referendum should French people ever be given the option of such a vote

Why would there be a referendum ...as we do not see people demonstrating for that ... demonstration where for other things inside France they wanted ( pensions age higher ...) it looks like there is not much appetite for a Frexit ....

 

But I see now the polls show 57% majority for SNP .....after the battle of brexit it seems a battle of Scots independance referendum is waiting you....however it could good be possible N.Irland would unite before  that ...,if you mess up with the Irish solution as now international treaty is  broken by Boris ....

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3 hours ago, Hi from France said:

The "tentacles" thing is a nice touch, but if the UE is the biggest problem of the UK today (I mean except for those of you who still believe the UK "holds all the cards"), the UK will have to deal with the tentacles of the US and the tentacles of China.

 

Up to you to choose what tentacles you prefer,  but mostly the UK could be entering now in a process of "Lebanization" : torn between bigger powers that each want to tear off a piece of you.

 

  • The US will impose their policy on the UK (ban chinese 5G, accept US food standard at the expense of you farmers).
  • Russia will keep using Novichok like in Amesbury.
  • China will continue breaking the joint declaration on Hong Kong and there's not much the UK can do because they break treaties too. 

 

Clearly it's a dangerous world for Global Britain.

 

 

 

Now the UK does have its own "tentacles" : what is your opinion on Northern Ireland and Scotland, all?

 

Considering these nations want "to take back control" and be a member of the UE, should they be free to do so? Do they have the right to hold an independence referendum or not?

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