Pattaya Spotter Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: One again you missed the point. Look outside of the rectangular box and at what is really occurring here. It has nothing to do with just a travel bubble with one country, even if the only country is China. Think about the fact that Myanmar borders both China and Thailand. Just a view on my part. Many more stories like this one if you would like to view them https://thediplomat.com/2020/09/china-border-city-goes-into-wartime-mode-to-combat-covid-19/ I didn't miss anything...pointed out the obvious, which you missed. Yes, Myanmar borders China...again the proposal is to open tourism from China not Myanmar. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Thailand said: The worry about such a bubble should be in Chin's court with people leaving Thailand and testing positive on arrival in other countries. Same old story, don't test and you will record no infections. The only tests seem to be on those arriving from overseas in quarantine. It seems it would be a way to validate Thailand's claims or no/low virus levels...if returning Chinese tourists were testing + for the virus. However, if the Thai claims were untrue, I'd doubt they would propose the bubble for exactly this reason and I'm sure the Chinese would independently validate such claims before entering into any such bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerface1 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) I heard on the new yesterday that China is now vaccinating it’s people with their corona virus vaccine. However the vaccine hadn’t completed its clinical trials. Why wait ??? It’s just a little <deleted> Pric k Edited October 19, 2020 by pokerface1 Etror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JusticeGB Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 Special privileges for the country that created the epidemic that's rich. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: I didn't miss anything...pointed out the obvious, which you missed. Yes, Myanmar borders China...again the proposal is to open tourism from China not Myanmar. Never said there was a travel bubble with Myanmar, now did I. All i did was draw the connection with Covid cases and that was all I stated. China is not Covid free, and neither is Thailand. Are they possibly on the low end of virus cases, possibly, but so are many others. Thailand is being short sighted in my opinion. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB1986 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, pokerface1 said: I heard on the new yesterday that China is now vaccinating it’s people with their corona virus vaccine. However the vaccine hadn’t completed its clinical trials. Why wait ??? It’s just a little <deleted> They will turn into zombies ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 hours ago, webfact said: The current mandatory quarantine will be replaced by coronavirus testing and a mobile tracking well if they test and have no virus as well as the mobile tracking then what's the problem ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pattaya Spotter Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, JusticeGB said: Special privileges for the country that created the epidemic that's rich. No...for a country that acted decisively to stamp out a novel zoonotic viral agent; and which is now virus free and where life is back to normal. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand Seeks Travel Bubble Pact With China to Spur Tourism NO not the bubble one again !!!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, steven100 said: well if they test and have no virus as well as the mobile tracking then what's the problem ? That only covers the ones coming in legitimately, the ones without finances use the leaky border routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Never said there was a travel bubble with Myanmar, now did I. All i did was draw the connection with Covid cases and that was all I stated. China is not Covid free, and neither is Thailand. Are they possibly on the low end of virus cases, possibly, but so are many others. Thailand is being short sighted in my opinion. So why did you mention it...you seemed to imply that infected Myanmarese would be allowed to enter Thailand. Maybe my reading of your posts was incorrect and if so I stand corrected. As with any viral disease, is there a single infected person anywhere in China...probably yes (and maybe a few) but if that's the standard for restarting tourism it's an unrealistic one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, madmen said: Yeah right if some random internet stranger says it's true them it must be.. And you got 5 likes for that, TV amaaaazing! JefR2 post #14...you could say the same about that post as well. I wasn't going to reply to #14 as I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt. Maybe the friend's wife works in a province that has not had a Wuhan China virus problem...how the he11 do I know! What I do know is a lot more about serpentza...which leads me to believe he is telling the truth even if occasionally he may unintentionally be off the mark...but we are after-all only human. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said: Would you expect anything different. Suppressing human rights and media coverage is an art they have perfected, much like the former USSR. One that Thailand is also beginning to tighten it's reign on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, steven100 said: well if they test and have no virus as well as the mobile tracking then what's the problem ? Is the test proven to be 100% effective? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Mama Noodle said: Good god thailand is like an infatuated teenager when it comes to China. They are literally at the core of every economic thought they have. With a market of 1.5B consumers, 300+M of them middle class, China is at the core of most countries economic thoughts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pattaya Spotter Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Grumpy John said: "Thailand is in talks with China to establish a quarantine-free travel corridor by January to rescue its ailing tourism industry" This maybe a risky move! I have been following a Vlogger called serpentza on Youtube for a few years who lived in China for 13 years and has a lot of contacts there and he is saying the Wuhan China virus is still a huge problem in China. The CCP are not telling the truth about it! A bitter South African who can't return home, did the teaching English gig in China and suffers from unrequited love for it, and has now washed-up in America repairing cars...maybe not the best place to get one's virus epidemiology updates. 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vandeventer Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 I think the government needs to get tourism off the brain for now. They need to get Thai's and foreigners with families back to Thailand first before looking at bubbles and remember bubbles will burst from lying countries. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Chinese however don't travel to any destination with unrest. So with street protests escalating, unless that's over by then, don't expect many or any to come. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookiescot Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 Seems to me that contrary to what we all expected Thailand managed to get the genie back in the bottle when it comes to corona. Inviting a load of chinese into the place is just going to smash the bottle. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spock Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, tomazbodner said: Chinese however don't travel to any destination with unrest. So with street protests escalating, unless that's over by then, don't expect many or any to come. Hopefully the street protests will continue for a long time as they are entirely warranted. If that keeps the Chinese away, well and good. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 46 minutes ago, Grumpy John said: Is the test proven to be 100% effective? agree .... provided they are carrying no virus then that's the objective here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomazbodner Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Spock said: Hopefully the street protests will continue for a long time as they are entirely warranted. If that keeps the Chinese away, well and good. I am personally enjoying the lack of Chinese around my place. So personally I would love it to last. Enjoyed curfew as well. Maybe if they just bring it back would be great... 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TERMINATOR3AB Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 Well it had to happen I knew China would be open to Thailand before any other country ( with no restrictions ??????) But January is a way off yet Wait see if the first lot of Chinese bring the virus back Then see if by Jan China dont have another wave of virus So many things these dreamers cannot see Why will no other country let Chinese in ? Also with Chinese here again not many other tourist will want to come anyway Why not just give Thailand to China....... China owns most of Thailand anyway ... become a provence then all the Generals will be safe from demonstrating populations Cos China will use water canons they use real guns Good Luck Thailand 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, steven100 said: well if they test and have no virus as well as the mobile tracking then what's the problem ? Nothing if they are kept in segregated bubbles away from the general population. Then I have no problem with them as don't have to see or hear them up in CM creating tourist havoc.. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, TERMINATOR3AB said: Well it had to happen I knew China would be open to Thailand before any other country ( with no restrictions ??????) But January is a way off yet Wait see if the first lot of Chinese bring the virus back Then see if by Jan China dont have another wave of virus So many things these dreamers cannot see Why will no other country let Chinese in ? Also with Chinese here again not many other tourist will want to come anyway Why not just give Thailand to China....... China owns most of Thailand anyway ... become a provence then all the Generals will be safe from demonstrating populations Cos China will use water canons they use real guns Good Luck Thailand Wow, so many negatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 56 minutes ago, vandeventer said: I think the government needs to get tourism off the brain for now. They need to get Thai's and foreigners with families back to Thailand first before looking at bubbles and remember bubbles will burst from lying countries. So what do the locals struggling to provide food for their kids do while they wait for your priorities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gearbox Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 "The agreement with Beijing will be subject to the success of a limited reopening of the Thai tourism industry to foreign travelers this month, according to Tourism Minister Phiphat Ratchakitprakar The minister is a bit delusional. The Chinese are calling the shots here, the Thais need the tourists, not vice versa. The Chinese prefer their people to spend their money domestically to help the economy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Grumpy John said: "Thailand is in talks with China to establish a quarantine-free travel corridor by January to rescue its ailing tourism industry" This maybe a risky move! I have been following a Vlogger called serpentza on Youtube for a few years who lived in China for 13 years and has a lot of contacts there and he is saying the Wuhan China virus is still a huge problem in China. The CCP are not telling the truth about it! Where in the article does it say that chinese people from Wuhan will be able to come? China is a huge country and there are regions without local cases for months, and we're talking about January or later. Take a chill pill and relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ketyo Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) I don't think the Chinese government wants its citizens to mix with pro-democracy protesters or to know anything about those incidents or human rights. They will have to be dealt with first. No doubt the Chinese Communist Party is advising the Thai government on what should be done to suppress and control the Thai people more and prevent them from expressing any political opinions. Wait for some new anti-human rights and state surveillance laws, and some more bans and crackdowns. Edited October 19, 2020 by Ketyo 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzian Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 hours ago, PatOngo said: TAT..............forever blowing bubbles!???? I think I heard of a Chinese guy with the nickname Bubbles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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