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2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Boris needs a deal more than anybody else. The only question is if he will get anything which he can sell as a success. 

It's like a guy who tells everybody that he can get all the pretty girls. And then later he has to explain how he ended up with the one he got.

 

er, Mrs Merkel, despite being in her twilight years and almost retired might disagree with you. She knows how important a deal is to the block but especially Germany. She also wants a deal she can sell as her success.

 

But le petit general daren't sell the French fishermen out. And any compromise on their quotas, no matter how scientifically sensible, will be seen as a sell out. Unless the French government reimburse them - which will make Macron look weak and politically vulnerable to pressure. He's got no option but to keep saying non, non, non. But how long with the Germans tolerate him?

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Boris needs a deal more than anybody else. The only question is if he will get anything which he can sell as a success.  It's like a guy who tells everybody that he can get all the pretty girls.

As I predicted. The talks continue.  Another imaginary deadline Boris backpedals on. 

Brexit talks are coronation street and eastenders in real life. Series that started 40 years ago and never ended.    

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9 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

er, Mrs Merkel, despite being in her twilight years and almost retired might disagree with you. She knows how important a deal is to the block but especially Germany. She also wants a deal she can sell as her success.

 

But le petit general daren't sell the French fishermen out. And any compromise on their quotas, no matter how scientifically sensible, will be seen as a sell out. Unless the French government reimburse them - which will make Macron look weak and politically vulnerable to pressure. He's got no option but to keep saying non, non, non. But how long with the Germans tolerate him?

I believe that you did not understand anything about this confrontation which is not surprising in view of all of your provocative messages.


Macron wants and is active behind the scenes to obtain a divorce without agreement or minimum brino. Go to specialized French forums for confirmation in terms much less civil than mine.


The nations of the south, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece... are all with him. This is why Merkel cannot impose even a fair deal While the German industrial lobbies are pushing for a transaction.


After the Irish border, fishing is a perfect motive for blocking any advance and blaming the relative fishermen's loss on British intransigence. This is why Macron and his friend Barnier will not give up.

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Here's a quote from The Times as reported in today's Australian newspaper:

"Britain is about to go “no deal” on one of its most cherished industries. No matter whether the government strikes a thin Brexit trade agreement, which is now the best that can be hoped for, or fails to secure anything, as looks more likely than ever, the die is cast for the City. There is nothing in the negotiations for a sector that accounts for 6.8 per cent of GDP, employs a million people across Britain (two-thirds outside London) and pays £75bn ($136bn) a year in taxes.

"Brussels has walked over us and, frankly, the government no longer cares. What matters is fishing, accounting for 0.1 per cent of GDP and employing 24,000 people, and state aid, to deliver a semblance of sovereignty."

 

As an Australian it's a bit bemusing to watch the UK 'government' use the word 'Australia' as propaganda to pretend that they're about to get something better than WTO rules. Presumably the average Brit knows that Oz is filthy rich (even after the pandemic) so anything Oz has by way of dealings with the EU must be good ...

 

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1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Like Macron said, a deal but not at any price. Same for the UK as for the EU.

 

Either both change or it will be no deal. 

 

Neither want that.

Only... the 450 mln EU block can afford it a lot easier as the tiny British Isles with 67 mln

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1 hour ago, Victornoir said:

I believe that you did not understand anything about this confrontation which is not surprising in view of all of your provocative messages.


Macron wants and is active behind the scenes to obtain a divorce without agreement or minimum brino. Go to specialized French forums for confirmation in terms much less civil than mine.


The nations of the south, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece... are all with him. This is why Merkel cannot impose even a fair deal While the German industrial lobbies are pushing for a transaction.


After the Irish border, fishing is a perfect motive for blocking any advance and blaming the relative fishermen's loss on British intransigence. This is why Macron and his friend Barnier will not give up.

I am beginning to change my opinion of the Frenchies right to fish our waters, a French lady on the BBC news has just said that the fish are born in French waters and then swim into British waters, which really makes a strong case for Macron, I feel such a fool not realising this simple fact in the first plaice (misspelling intended). 😂😂😂

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5 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Only... the 450 mln EU block can afford it a lot easier as the tiny British Isles with 67 mln

We don't care, anyhooo, most of your lot are milking you.....🤭

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14 minutes ago, Loiner said:

You can call Boris a clown, or a failed journalist, or a buffoon, or a liar, or anything else you want to. He's still beating your Barnier and Macron. That must hurt a bit doesn't it, beating your best?

He's not bluffing either, is that how your pair are losing the negotiations and being sent home? 

Boris the Liar beating Barnier and Macron ? How ? The EU with 450 mln will continue, but the tiny British isles with 67 mln ?

See the economic situation: GDP development 2nd quarter 2020. ONLY Spain (-22,1 %) performed worse as the UK ( -20,4%) .

gdp EU member states 2 nd '20 vs 2 nd '19.jpg

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3 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Boris the Liar beating Barnier and Macron ? How ? The EU with 450 mln will continue, but the tiny British isles with 67 mln ?

See the economic situation: GDP development 2nd quarter 2020. ONLY Spain (-22,1 %) performed worse as the UK ( -20,4%) .

gdp EU member states 2 nd '20 vs 2 nd '19.jpg

We don't care, only you care, you keep telling us....🤭

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1 minute ago, puipuitom said:

Boris the Liar beating Barnier and Macron ? How ? The EU with 450 mln will continue, but the tiny British isles with 67 mln ?

See the economic situation: GDP development 2nd quarter 2020. ONLT Spain performed worse as the UK.

 

Did you think we were negotiating about who has the biggest GDP???

 

We were negotiating about what type of deal we leave the transition period with. As far of Macron and Barnier's demands for our fishing waters goes, we have won.

Boris & Frost 1 - 0 Macron & Barnier

 

Boris has well outperformed Macron and the eight EU coastal states.

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