Trump calls Fauci a 'disaster' and seeks to reassure his team he can win

[RobFord 921]

On 10/20/2020 at 6:49 AM, ThailandRyan said:

All I can say is, if at first you don't succeed to derail a campaign before an election you just open up your mouth and try again.  If this guy gets elected after all the shenanigans then maybe he himself isn't such an idiot and he plays the drama card to the end much like a Thai Lakorn.

Or, in other words, never underestimate the stupidity of the American public. Voting for Trump twice is the epitome of stupidity. I’m betting 45 % of that population will cast Republican. They will be defined by this next election. 

[heybruce 18,832]

9 hours ago, RobFord said:

Or, in other words, never underestimate the stupidity of the American public. Voting for Trump twice is the epitome of stupidity. I’m betting 45 % of that population will cast Republican. They will be defined by this next election. 

In fairness to real Republicans, Trump has turned the party into something completely different, and in some cases the exact opposite, of what it once was.  The current Republican party is the biggest RINO around.

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1 hour ago, heybruce said:

In fairness to real Republicans, Trump has turned the party into something completely different, and in some cases the exact opposite, of what it once was.  The current Republican party is the biggest RINO around.

I disagree with you literally almost 100%.

On what issues do the Republicans under Trump differ from Republicans before Trump?

On taxes? Clearly not. Still touting the same nonsense that tax cuts pay for themselves and that allowing corporations to repatriate funds will result in more investment and growth.

Climate change. Still in denial. Keep in mind that Republicans were the ones who came up with the idea of the carbon tax way back when.

Racial Issues? Nixon's southern strategy, Reagan's welfare queens, George H.W. Bush's Willie Horton ad. Appointing justices who support undercutting voting rights of minorities. Among other things.

Abortion rights? Under George Bush government took all kinds of antiabortion measures. Pushed hard for abstinence funding. Cut off aid to family planning abroad to organizations that supported abortion rights.

Science? Starting with Reagan began promoting junk science to support regulations and de-regulation

Environment. Starting with Reagan began a policy of denialism about pollution. Opening up protect lands to mining. Deregulation to support increases in polluting activities.

This list is hardly exhaustive.

Only on international trade do Trump and the Republicans differ significantly from the previous Republican stances.

[heybruce 18,832]

10 hours ago, placeholder said:

I disagree with you literally almost 100%.

On what issues do the Republicans under Trump differ from Republicans before Trump?

On taxes? Clearly not. Still touting the same nonsense that tax cuts pay for themselves and that allowing corporations to repatriate funds will result in more investment and growth.

Climate change. Still in denial. Keep in mind that Republicans were the ones who came up with the idea of the carbon tax way back when.

Racial Issues? Nixon's southern strategy, Reagan's welfare queens, George H.W. Bush's Willie Horton ad. Appointing justices who support undercutting voting rights of minorities. Among other things.

Abortion rights? Under George Bush government took all kinds of antiabortion measures. Pushed hard for abstinence funding. Cut off aid to family planning abroad to organizations that supported abortion rights.

Science? Starting with Reagan began promoting junk science to support regulations and de-regulation

Environment. Starting with Reagan began a policy of denialism about pollution. Opening up protect lands to mining. Deregulation to support increases in polluting activities.

This list is hardly exhaustive.

Only on international trade do Trump and the Republicans differ significantly from the previous Republican stances.

Republicans used to be the party promoting free trade, more legal immigration, a pathway to citizenship for illegals living and working in the US, a tough line on Russian aggression and making the US the leader of the free world.  Under Trump the Republican party has done a 180 on all these issues.

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11 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Republicans used to be the party promoting free trade, more legal immigration, a pathway to citizenship for illegals living and working in the US, a tough line on Russian aggression and making the US the leader of the free world.  Under Trump the Republican party has done a 180 on all these issues.

So not really MAGA as promised you think??

 

[Sujo 16,951]

I think we all know who the disaster is. 230,000 and counting. They never had a plan and have now raised the white flag.

 

All guns blazing into a herd immunity, that doesnt exist.

 

Go trump, just go.

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1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Republicans used to be the party promoting free trade, more legal immigration, a pathway to citizenship for illegals living and working in the US, a tough line on Russian aggression and making the US the leader of the free world.  Under Trump the Republican party has done a 180 on all these issues.

Pretty small beer compared to the similarities.

[heybruce 18,832]

8 hours ago, placeholder said:

Pretty small beer compared to the similarities.

Promoting conspiracy theories (the Obama birther nonsense) got Trump serious attention in politics.  Bashing immigrants is what got him elected.  I think turning the Republican party from one advocating legal immigration to one hostile to immigrants is a big deal.  It certainly is with Trump's base.

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1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Promoting conspiracy theories (the Obama birther nonsense) got Trump serious attention in politics.  Bashing immigrants is what got him elected.  I think turning the Republican party from one advocating legal immigration to one hostile to immigrants is a big deal.  It certainly is with Trump's base.

Trump has done for the republicans just what he did for the various other despicable facets of American culture- he empowered the sordid underbelly to come to the fore.  May he rot in jail along with his enablers.