9,000 people in Tak to undergo testing for Covid-19

[webfact]

9,000 people in Tak to undergo testing for Covid-19

By THE NATION

 

 

The Public Health Ministry will next week undertake aggressive testing of 9,000 people in Tak province for Covid-19 after a Myanmar married couple who reside in Mae Sot district tested positive last week.

 

The district shares a border with Myanmar.

 

“The two patients are being treated at Mae Sot Hospital and have shown no symptoms so far,” Dr Rames Wongwilailuck, Tak’s public health deputy chief, said on Monday.

 

“Five other family members who carry high risk of infection are also being monitored in quarantine rooms at the hospital.”

 

Rames further added that since the infection was found in the province, the public health staff have performed aggressive testing on approximately 4,000 people, but there are no positive cases so far.

 

“Next week we will test over 5,000 people in risky areas, such as shopping malls and crowded communities. After that, we will expand the testing to around 4,000 patrol police officers in four districts that share a border with Myanmar, namely Um Phang, Phob Phra, Mae Ramad and Tha Song Yang.”

 

Meanwhile, Dr Sarayut Uttamangkhaphong, director of Region 2 Disease Control Office, has said that since October 11 product transport trucks from Myanmar that are allowed to enter Mae Sot must stay in the border checkpoint’s safety zone only. “Each truck can have only one driver and no passenger, and must stay in the safety zone awaiting their Thai partners to come and pick up the goods,” he said. “The loading can take a maximum of seven hours, while the driver must provide sample of saliva for testing.

 

“However, since October 18 the checkpoint has been closed for seven days for maintenance and will open again on October 26,” added Sarayut.

 

“During this time, border staff will install additional barricades in the safety zone, recruit additional staff as well as procure sanitary face masks for staff to use while working.

 

“We expect that when the checkpoint reopens, we will be able to accept product transport trucks at 600-700 vehicles per day,” he added.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30396455

 

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[RotBenz8888]

27 minutes ago, webfact said:

"The two patients are being treated at Mae Sot Hospital and have shown no symptoms so far,”

No symptoms, so what exactly are they treated for? 

[DLock]

5 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said:

No symptoms, so what exactly are they treated for? 

I am always quite amazed at the lack of understanding around COVID. 

 

They are positive for COVID, but they are not showing any outward symptoms, like many people with COVID. They are asymptomatic. They are still contagious and can infect others, who may may not be so lucky and suffer symptoms.

[madmitch]

2 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said:

No symptoms, so what exactly are they treated for? 

I believe the rules are that eveyone with a positive test in Thailand is hospitalised. Probably rightly so as cases are low and many people are not self-disciplined enough to comply with self-isolation rules, as weve seen in many countries.

[Paiman]

Ongoing insanity. Like headless chickens. If some suffer symptoms, so be it.

 

Get on with life.

[redwood1]

3 hours ago, DLock said:

I am always quite amazed at the lack of understanding around COVID. 

 

They are positive for COVID, but they are not showing any outward symptoms, like many people with COVID. They are asymptomatic. They are still contagious and can infect others, who may may not be so lucky and suffer symptoms.

What does it even matter who has Covid or spreads Covid 99.9% of people recover.....I am more worried about crossing the street than covid...

Edited October 20, 2020 by redwood1

[DLock]

15 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

What does it even matter who has Covid or spreads Covid 99.9% of people recover.....I am more worried about crossing the street than covid...

 

Good for you.

 

But in terms of "closed cases", the number is close to 4% mortality, not .01%...but you keep telling yourself that as you cross the street.

 

 

[CGW]

3 hours ago, DLock said:

They are positive for COVID, but they are not showing any outward symptoms, like many people with COVID. They are asymptomatic. They are still contagious and can infect others, who may may not be so lucky and suffer symptoms.

I too am amazed at people lack of comprehension! the world has gone mad - or socialist ???? immune systems no longer work, need the state to protect us with Vaccines and locking healthy people up - ridiculous! 

Protecting us? - yeh right, more people die on the roads in a day than a year with Controla virus yet they do nothing about that - wonder why if they are so concerned about "Us"! 

https://worlddoctorsalliance.com/?utm_source=phplist314&utm_medium=email&utm_content=HTML&utm_campaign=OPEN+LETTER+TO+THE+UK+GOVERNMENT+FROM+THE+WORLD+DOCTORS+ALLIANCE

 

"We now have hundreds of thousands of so-called ‘cases’, ‘infections’ and ‘positive tests’ but hardly any sick people. Recall that four fifths (80%) of ‘infections’ are asymptomatic (1) Covid wards have been by and large empty throughout June, July, August and September 2020. Most importantly covid deaths are at an all-time low. It is clear that these ‘cases’ are in fact not ‘cases’ but rather they are normal healthy people.

So-called asymptomatic cases have never in the history of respiratory disease been the driver for spread of infection. Rather it is symptomatic people who spread respiratory infections - not asymptomatic people.(2)"

[ukrules]

4 hours ago, DLock said:

They are still contagious and can infect others

Unproven and a contentious point. It is thought that if they are pre-symptomatic then they can spread it but not if they are asymptomatic.

 

Determining the difference between these two groups in the first few days of an infection would prove to be difficult.

Edited October 20, 2020 by ukrules

[realfunster]

14 minutes ago, DLock said:

 

Good for you.

 

But in terms of "closed cases", the number is close to 4% mortality, not .01%...but you keep telling yourself that as you cross the street.

 

 

 

I am by no means a 'COVID-denier' but I don't think any medical or health professional is any longer suggesting a 4% infection mortality rate. On the flip side, I also don't see any serious evidence of a 0.01% fatality rates as mentioned as a counter-argument. Perhaps this latter figure is a reference to the often shared Facebook memes along a similar theme, being that 99.975% of people will not die from covid as they are (i) not infected in the first place and (ii) those that are infected have, on average, a 99%+ chance of recovery (see below).

 

It is clear that there are/were vast numbers of unreported cases as many people are asymptomatic and therefore not tested and not included in the number of cases. This gave rise, initially, to an artificially high mortality rate during the first wave. For the second wave (and after first wave), 'random' testing is significantly increased in many countries and the fatality rate is dropping.

 

I believe the latest estimates are, that of those infected, around 0.5-1.0% will sadly pass away with the risks very heavily weighted on the over 70s and those with pre-existing conditions. For example, the latest US CDC estimate is 0.65%.

[patman30]

as reported elsewhere, the 2nd wave is due November????‍♂️
of course they now need to ramp up testing here

 

 

3 hours ago, DLock said:

But in terms of "closed cases", the number is close to 4% mortality, not .01%...but you keep telling yourself that as you cross the street.

Without even going into the RT-PCR test reliability argument, or double counts or "with" instead of "of" etc.

This is from the CDC????
which i expect consists of actual qualified medical experts who know a thing or two????‍♂️

Source: CDC.GOV
 

[scubascuba3]

7 hours ago, DLock said:

I am always quite amazed at the lack of understanding around COVID. 

 

They are positive for COVID, but they are not showing any outward symptoms, like many people with COVID. They are asymptomatic. They are still contagious and can infect others, who may may not be so lucky and suffer symptoms.

Yes so they can be quarantined elsewhere doesn't need to be a hospital

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

“The two patients are being treated at Mae Sot Hospital and have shown no symptoms so far,” Dr Rames Wongwilailuck, Tak’s public health deputy chief, said on Monday.

Begs the question why the need for 9,000 aggressive tests?

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, Paiman said:

Ongoing insanity. Like headless chickens. If some suffer symptoms, so be it.

 

Get on with life.

The thousands worldwide who have died would love to do just that !!!!

[patman30]

9 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

The thousands worldwide who have died would love to do just that !!!!

The median age of deaths is 82 years

Data shows the average age of death from coronavirus is 82.4 years

 

Data shows average age of Covid death is 82.4 years

who for the most part also have underlying conditions????‍♂️
Top link is .Gov.au source????
bottom 2 links are Uk sources
so similar story both sides of the globe

just a couple quotes
"The study by Oxford’s Centre for Evidence Based Medicine also suggests that fewer than six people per thousand who get coronavirus now are likely to die from it."

"The figures also show that currently 40 per cent of those who die from Covid are over 85, and a further 33 per cent are between 75 and 84"

"This is slightly higher than deaths caused by other illnesses, which has a median age of 81.5."

[hotchilli]

4 minutes ago, patman30 said:

The median age of deaths is 82 years

Data shows the average age of death from coronavirus is 82.4 years

 

Data shows average age of Covid death is 82.4 years

who for the most part also have underlying conditions????‍♂️
Top link is .Gov.au source????
bottom 2 links are Uk sources
so similar story both sides of the globe

just a couple quotes
"The study by Oxford’s Centre for Evidence Based Medicine also suggests that fewer than six people per thousand who get coronavirus now are likely to die from it."

"The figures also show that currently 40 per cent of those who die from Covid are over 85, and a further 33 per cent are between 75 and 84"

"This is slightly higher than deaths caused by other illnesses, which has a median age of 81.5."

 Thank you for all the information, however my reply stands, those that have died irrelevant of what age would liked to have passed under different circumstances.

[ukrules]

3 hours ago, DLock said:

 

But in terms of "closed cases", the number is close to 4% mortality, not .01%...but you keep telling yourself that as you cross the street.

The number of infections is estimated to be greater than 700 million worldwide.

[patman30]

12 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

 Thank you for all the information, however my reply stands, those that have died irrelevant of what age would liked to have passed under different circumstances.

that is not what you stated,
and there is nothing to suggest their symptoms would have been any better or any worse than what they experienced anyway.
Offical sources state the vast majority had underlying conditions
they would have suffered the same if their additional symtoms were labeled as covid or as the flu
according to the CDC, "covid19" is yet to be isolated,
and a positive RT-PCR test result even when amplified 45x, does not rule out other causes

"Positive results do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease."

Edited October 20, 2020 by patman30

[patman30]

12 minutes ago, ukrules said:

The number of infections is estimated to be greater than 700 million worldwide.

Do you have an official medical research source for this?
or is it just speculative fear mongering ?

and infection can be asymptomatic or very mild
the IFR remains the same

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

[Flying Saucage]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

The Public Health Ministry will next week undertake aggressive testing of 9,000 people in Tak province for Covid-19

Wow! They wait till next week, then test merely 9000 people, and they dare to call that "aggressive testing". This says something about Thailands approach towards Covid. 

[from the home of CC]

4 hours ago, ukrules said:

The number of infections is estimated to be greater than 700 million worldwide.

yes, it has a long way to go yet..

[KhaoYai]

11 hours ago, DLock said:

I am always quite amazed at the lack of understanding around COVID.

Perhaps he means - how were they discovered? Why were they at the hospital?