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Joker of the year says the conflict needs to be resolved in parliament with the protesters representatives, er but i thought he banned them all and their party they voted for, as well as it's leader. Lifts state of emergency as too embarrassing to pretend anyone took a blind bit of notice of it

 

 

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A prime example to anyone of why schools should not be allowed to indoctrinate children.....religious schools, in particular, should be banned throughout the world.

yep, my wife is a staunch royalist - she cant bare the comments being made. my son is M1 and has started waving 3 fingers about the house. you can imagine the friction. It doesnt help that she constan

Was with my misses family yesterday (police) they muttered something about Prayut, and I said I thought he was doing a great job and how I enjoyed being here ........... they all laughed. Not my

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15 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

'Yellow shirts' hear govt house tonight looking rather regimented, strangely no women or students in the ranks, at least they left the guns in the barracks, so they really think this charade fools anyone? From A Marshals fb page

 

 

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can't stop laughing when seeing these puppets. They really have no face.

 

 

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On 10/20/2020 at 9:25 AM, Gandtee said:

Any comment or discussion on the present student protests is strictly taboo between my wife and I. We have agreed not to get into it to maintain a quiet life. For her, after a lifetime of indoctrination it must be very difficult to listen and accept differing views. Any others out there following the same policy? 

No comment; And why would you like to share your private life with TV??? Can't you work it out by yourself????

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15 hours ago, Morch said:

 

Let's try again. Assuming the protests result in the sort of changes advocated by the protestors - what then? Who's at the helm? Who gets to set the new rules and design this new system?

 

Given the country had numerous regime changes, numerous constitutions, and many promised new beginnings, being optimistic about the prospects for change is a choice.

 

What I hear, see and read from and about current protests leaders doesn't really reassure that they are up to the task of running a country. The politicians involved are similarly useless and not very trustworthy either.

 

That's not saying the government is great, or that there are no issues. Just that faith in this lot being able to sort things out is, IMO, misplaced.

 

My take is that their goal (the one we're not to discuss) is mainly a distraction. And possibly a very dangerous one. Things being as they are, the military got to maintain (well, most times, anyway) a semblance of following some ground rules. If said goal is realized, then the framework governing the military's behavior is also done with. Now let's contemplate the military's past actions, and consider how things might pan out without any constraints or need to keep appearances up in place.

 

 

 

 

for sure this is just a bump on the road to nowhere, essentially nothing will change in the long term, because; thailand has a polarised electorate who vote with their tribe, elections are not fought on political philosophies or ideologies, you dont have floating voters as such. also the ingrained and endemic corruption that permeates all levels of society, even elections... and add to this the general lack of understanding of how the democratic process works, when one party loses the opposition take the the streets to try to force change rather than voicing their opinions in a peaceful manner. then you have an ever changing constitution which has been manipulated in the past to the benefit of those in power, oh i could go on...

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5 minutes ago, samsensam said:

 

for sure this is just a bump on the road to nowhere, essentially nothing will change in the long term, because; thailand has a polarised electorate who vote with their tribe, elections are not fought on political philosophies or ideologies, you dont have floating voters as such. also the ingrained and endemic corruption that permeates all levels of society, even elections... and add to this the general lack of understanding of how the democratic process works, when one party loses the opposition take the the streets to try to force change rather than voicing their opinions in a peaceful manner. then you have an ever changing constitution which has been manipulated in the past to the benefit of those in power, oh i could go on...

The opposition even if winning seats ends up being declared null and void through court proceedings allegedly during "due process". Until the courts cease being a tool for government there will be no change

The elephant in the room needs to also be addressed

 

 

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18 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

'Yellow shirts' hear govt house tonight looking rather regimented, strangely no women or students in the ranks, at least they left the guns in the barracks, so they really think this charade fools anyone? From A Marshals fb page

 

 

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Apart from these 'ordinary citizens' I am told the vast majority of yellow clad humans are being paid for attendance and other are from government institutions and are told to be there (or else).

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3 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

The opposition even if winning seats ends up being declared null and void through court proceedings allegedly during "due process". Until the courts cease being a tool for government there will be no change

The elephant in the room needs to also be addressed

 

 

 

The elephant in the room is a distraction. Supposed the elephant isn't there - what then? Does anyone really believe the military will simply embrace the values of democracy and all will be well?

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3 hours ago, BobBKK said:

 

Apart from these 'ordinary citizens' I am told the vast majority of yellow clad humans are being paid for attendance and other are from government institutions and are told to be there (or else).

 

Told by whom?

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On 10/20/2020 at 6:16 PM, tonray said:

I was able to discuss whether we wanted to eat Thai or Japanese on a recent trip to Central Westgate....but GF is opening up especially after I had her accompany me to the Immigration office for her 'first time' initiation...she wasn't very aware what goes on and being a professional manager...she was not very happy with the government system for treating foreigners just wishing to legally stay. Especially curious about the numerous Thai agents walking in and out of the IO cubicles with stacks of 10 passports or more, sometimes interupting people sitting down at the desk and further slowing down the process. I explained to her that should someone not have any money in the bank or insurance cert....they could hire one of these agents to smooth things over...I think she became a bit more appreciative of what the protestors are doing even if not willing to openly support them verbally. 

So the protestors are against visa agents? Didn't know.

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4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

So the protestors are against visa agents? Didn't know.

Corruption in government is a major source of dissastisfaction with the current regime. Certaiin practices of agents (such as circumventing the laws and offering under the table compensation to Immigration Officers) certainly fall into that category. Corruption keeps the power in the hands of those with in power and lessens opportunity for the rest of the population. Perhaps you should look further than your own view of the personal utility of the agents

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On 10/22/2020 at 12:28 AM, sammieuk1 said:

A great afternoon's drama provided by Khaosod + FB live and the thousands of brave young people that tore down the razor wire and marched to government house without conflict good luck and keep going 🖖🤔 

as I have said before violence protests will achieve nothing

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