Popular Post Thaivisa Web Content Team 1,534 Posted October 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 The story surrounding the alleged laptop of Hunter Biden, the son of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, has become the new Pizzagate—only this time, the conspiracy theory is being promoted not from the depths of 4chan, but by mainline conservatives. Since the New York Post published what it claimed were emails written by Hunter last week, theories surrounding the alleged laptop have spiraled into increasingly conspiratorial territory. The laptop, which was supposedly dropped off at a computer repair shop in Delaware and never picked back up, is now alleged to contain videos of Hunter torturing and abusing underage Chinese girls. It’s implausible, unlikely, and has not been proven. So where did this theory originate? Questions regarding the laptop’s origins have existed since the beginning. The computer repairman who came into possession of the laptop claims to have given it to the FBI—but not before giving a copy of the hard drive to the lawyer of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. The Post says it was alerted to the laptop by none other than former White House advisor Steve Bannon before Giuliani, the personal lawyer to President Donald Trump, handed over the data. But the computer repairman, a pro-Trump conspiracy theorist himself, admits he didn’t actually see Hunter drop off the laptop and has struggled to keep his story straight. The alleged emails are also presented by the Post in pdf and image form, not in the actual email format that would be needed to help verify their authenticity. Although some of the laptop’s alleged contents appear to be legitimate, such as numerous private photos of Hunter, the rest of the data remains in question. Giuliani’s ties to the story also raise red flags given that U.S. intelligence agencies reportedly warned Trump last year that Russian intelligence officers were attempting to feed Giuliani disinformation in an effort to harm Biden’s presidential run. Former National Security Advisor John Bolton even reportedly went as far as to warn his staff to steer clear of Giuliani as a result. While no public evidence at this time suggests the laptop is linked to a foreign intelligence operation, numerous media outlets, including Fox News, turned the story down after being approached by Giuliani due to concerns regarding its credibility. As reported by the New York Times, Giuliani ultimately offered the data up to the Post because “either nobody else would take it, or if they took it, they would spend all the time they could to try to contradict it before they put it out.” Even after being accepted by the Post, however, the story continued to receive pushback. The Post’s first story on Hunter is said to have largely been written by an employee who refused to have his name added to the piece due to verification and credibility issues. The expanding number of issues with the story has done little to deter conservatives, who believe the allegations against Hunter are key to defeating Biden in November. The story has since taken a dark turn and has seemingly morphed into its own updated version of Pizzagate, the conspiracy theory that led one man to open fire inside a Washington, D.C. pizzeria that he believed was operating a Democrat-run child sex trafficking ring. Over the weekend, claims began spreading on sites such as 4chan that Hunter’s laptop contained child pornography. The story took off after a 4chan user alleging to be Chanel Rion, the White House correspondent for the rabidly pro-Trump One America News Network (OANN), claimed that evidence of Hunter engaging in pedophilia was set to be revealed. Despite Rion stating on Twitter that the anonymous post was not made by her, the incident helped launch a tidal wave of conspiratorial claims online. It wasn’t long before prominent conservative figures were repeating the claim on social media. In a tweet on Sunday, conservative radio host and noted conspiracy theorist Wayne Allyn Root repeated the claim to his more than 100,000 followers. Root claims “sources” revealed to him that the videos on the laptop show “Hunter raping & torturing little Chinese children.” The tweet, which concludes that the elder Biden is unelectable due to being compromised and blackmailed, has been shared more than 38,000 times. The claim eventually made its way to Fox News, where host Maria Bartiromo repeated the allegation that the laptop could contain child pornography during an interview with Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.). The allegation appears to be a combination of two prominent conspiracy theories tied to Pizzagate. One, known as FrazzleDrip, alleged that video existed on the dark web showing former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and her campaign aide Huma Abedin torturing a child. The second surrounded the laptop of disgraced politician Anthony Weiner, which conspiracy theorists claimed was filled with similar exploitive material that ultimately led Clinton to murder numerous New York City police officers in an effort to keep the contents from becoming public. While such conspiracies were largely ignored by the conservative mainstream back then—also right before an election—the Hunter laptop allegations come at a time when such outlandish theories are commonplace in prominent right-wing circles. FULL ARTICLE 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post herfiehandbag 3,719 Posted October 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 Now if your Dad is running for President, and if your laptop contains child pornography, then you are hardly likely to hand it over to a repairman, now are you? 17 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post ThreeEyedRaven 8,700 Posted October 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 And yet even when the allegations are becoming wilder and wilder everyday with the supposed content, there remains not a shred of evidence that any of it is genuine. Such incriminating evidence on a laptop someone forgot to pick up from a repair shop, or would even hand in, in the first place? Everyone with knowledge is laughing at it, while crazies generate ever more delusional conspiracy theories to explain really amazing stuff is real(not found even in Thailand), and they were so keen to jump on the juicy bone, now they cannot see how they are being fed disinformation. Explains how Trump gets away with it I guess. Tell whoppers your camp will love, promise them proof down the road, just never provide. Hats off to the Biden camp for dismissing any suggestion the alleged meeting took place and then simply ignoring the rest as the rot it seems to be. The only thing remaining is to see how long it takes for the delusional to accept it was a lie designed to get them to vote for a foreign enemies favourite candidate, which looks increasingly like the actual truth of the matter. 16 2 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post lust 5,137 Posted October 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, ThreeEyedRaven said: And yet even when the allegations are becoming wilder and wilder everyday with the supposed content, there remains not a shred of evidence that any of it is genuine. Such incriminating evidence on a laptop someone forgot to pick up from a repair shop, or would even hand in, in the first place? Everyone with knowledge is laughing at it, while crazies generate ever more delusional conspiracy theories to explain really amazing stuff is real(not found even in Thailand), and they were so keen to jump on the juicy bone, now they cannot see how they are being fed disinformation. Explains how Trump gets away with it I guess. Tell whoppers your camp will love, promise them proof down the road, just never provide. Hats off to the Biden camp for dismissing any suggestion the alleged meeting took place and then simply ignoring the rest as the rot it seems to be. The only thing remaining is to see how long it takes for the delusional to accept it was a lie designed to get them to vote for a foreign enemies favourite candidate. There’s no hope for people like you. 10 1 3 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post darksidedog 50,816 Posted October 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, lust said: There’s no hope for people like you. Can you provide an explanation for that comment please? The above story and most other intelligence sources consider it as fake. Do you have some insight you would care to enlighten us with how his comment wasn't at least partially on the money? From corruption to kiddie sex all found on a computer Hunter Biden supposedly sent for repair and forgot about? With that sort of content? Seriously it is hard to comprehend how anyone cannot at least doubt this as not being being muck spreading. I have studied multiple reports and have seen NO evidence, that is ZERO evidence of any of it being genuine. So, pray, enlighten us with your wisdom. I mean, Jesus, even the super Pro Trump One America News network agreed that the supposed post from her was fake. 19 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Surelynot 7,532 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I guess when JFK Junior didn't show up to be appointed VP (unlikely since he his dead) they desperately needed something to distract QAnon members attention. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Orton Rd 16,175 Posted October 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said: Now if your Dad is running for President, and if your laptop contains child pornography, then you are hardly likely to hand it over to a repairman, now are you? People do these things, Gary Glitter dropped his off at computer world for a repair and it had child pornography on it, they called the cops. His dad was not running for office though. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post darksidedog 50,816 Posted October 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 A fairly expectable troll post diverting and deflecting from the question being asked has been deleted. Try again with a reputable and reliable argument please. I remind you of the following rule: 2) You will not use ThaiVisa.com to post any material which is knowingly or can be reasonably construed as false, inaccurate, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of any law. You were asked to explain why the evidence was reliable not post a deflection. I hope your next effort is significantly improved. I probably should have allowed that post to stand but you would have been ripped apart by intelligent posters who have researched this. Facts! Not unfounded allegation. Not conspiracy theory. Not deflecting off to other spurious videos of other subjects. You do have reason to believe this is genuine? Explain yourself please. EDIT: To the above comment, you did not explain yourself. You posted an entirely off topic video, which had zero connection to the laptop in question. Try again. Genuinely. Put some thoughts and facts in this time though, eh? 5 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
2 is 1 2,814 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) Who is running for president? Hunter or hes father! Other campain start to be "weaponless" and put on air all kind BS! And even if little true SO WHAT! Then he is "naughty" boy and he is to plaim not others! Edited October 20, 2020 by 2 is 1 Link to post Share on other sites
surangw 1,550 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 convienent timing 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Trujillo 2,189 Posted October 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 The original post is full of inaccuracies and this whole thing should be deleted per: 2) You will not use ThaiVisa.com to post any material which is knowingly or can be reasonably construed as false, inaccurate... Why is the "Thaivisa Web Content Team" posting this? Isn't the point of having forum oversite to maintain neutrality? I'm baffled by this whole thing. 11 6 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Rookiescot 11,534 Posted October 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 When you see this it just worries me how far into the gutter US (and UK) politics is going to go. If we do not start rowing back from this kind of stuff then there is little hope for either country. Where will it end? We have already had a UK MP murdered by a right wing nut job. How many people are we going to lose to this conspiracy theory nonsense? If it is not profoundly condemned by all sides then this will only spiral down until politics no longer matter and only pure hatred takes over. Is this the country you want? 6 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post darksidedog 50,816 Posted October 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Trujillo said: The original post is full of inaccuracies and this whole thing should be deleted per: 2) You will not use ThaiVisa.com to post any material which is knowingly or can be reasonably construed as false, inaccurate... Why is the "Thaivisa Web Content Team" posting this? Isn't the point of having forum oversite to maintain neutrality? I'm baffled by this whole thing. From the rules: The ThaiVisa News Team gathers and disseminates news bulletins from Thai and International sources, and republishes them in the News Forums for our members' information and enjoyment. Our News Team works hard to bring quality content to the News Forums, and should be respected for their efforts. Comments such as "slow news day" or "clickbait headline" are neither respectful nor welcome on the forum, and will be considered as troll comments and removed and the offending poster warned and/or suspended accordingly. Except as otherwise indicated in the byline, news bulletins are reprinted verbatim from a mass media source which has given TV permission to use its feed. Original articles, especially in the Thai press, often have grammatical mistakes or misspellings. ThaiVisa is not responsible for these nor does ThaiVisa have the rights to alter content it is reprinting from another source. Similarly, ThaiVisa is not responsible for any opinions reflected or quoted in reprinted news stories. The story comes from dailydot.com a site with a known left bias, though considered high on factual reporting. More than that I suggest you email or PM the News team if you feel there is something wrong. Having been through sites left and right, I have not found any evidence that anything about this laptop is genuine. And much criticism that it is highly suspect. I have previously asked another member to provide a reliable link to show otherwise, but he seems to have crept away. Maybe you can step into the breach he has left. I stress the word reliable though. So tell us, what is inaccurate and cite your sources to prove it. 3 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post BangkokReady 1,312 Posted October 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said: Who is running for president? If the father is implicated in the crimes of the son, then it seems they would be relevant. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
RoadWarrior371 1,140 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) A lot of bias to sift through. Information users should tread carefully. LOL Edited October 20, 2020 by RoadWarrior371 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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