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55 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

They have a signed receipt from Hunter Biden and an email from Hunter asking for the laptop back.

Who has it?  The FBI hasn't released that info.  Only from "unnamed sources". 

 

Right...

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And yet even when the allegations are becoming wilder and wilder everyday with the supposed content, there remains not a shred of evidence that any of it is genuine. Such incriminating evidence on a l

Can you provide an explanation for that comment please? The above story and most other intelligence sources consider it as fake. Do you have some insight you would care to enlighten us with

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9 minutes ago, tokachinter said:

Everyone knows the Russians are behind this and that computer repairman is a dirty commie plant. I mean everyone knows they hacked the DNC computer in 2016 (amazingly without leaving any forensic trace that it had been hacked). They have also poisoned to death so many people, well, almost....(As an armchair spy novel reader I have some advice for Mr Putin ex-head of the KGB, why not use a more effective, non-Russian named poison if you want to discretely knock off any more minor opposition political figures or retired spys?!). The Russians are controlling the weather, too. I mean why aren't there any chemtrails over Moscow,  eh?!  Yadayadayada.                                                                                                              As previous posters have mentioned, don't expect any verifiable truth to come out from either side in the lead up to the U.S. election.

Rudy is behind this.  He's been trying to dig up dirt on the Bidens for a long time.  Unsuccessfully.  But the alt right crowd doesn't care.  It's a dog whistle to them.  Bidens!  Hillary!  Mueller!  Too funny...

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The fake Hunter Biden story is almost comical. It alleges that someone delivered three laptops to a computer repair store in Delaware. The owner of that store thinks the man who delivered the computers was Hunter Biden, the son of Vice-President Joe Biden. But he can’t be sure it was Hunter Biden. Or maybe he can. He’s very confused about how this all went down. Anyway, the owner says he made copies of the hard drives and somehow sent the content, which he deemed suspicious, to some undetermined law enforcement agency and to the former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, one of Trump’s personal lawyers. It’s all very unclear how and why such a transaction happened – if at all. Was that even legal? If it happened. 

 

Among the pilfered emails (sound familiar?) was at least one that seemed to suggest that the then vice-president could arrange a meeting with a business associate of Hunter’s in Ukraine. You might remember that Hunter’s Ukraine business involvement was the subject of the phone call that Trump made to the president of Ukraine to get him to announce an investigation of the Bidens. This call is what triggered Trump’s impeachment.

 

Vice-President Biden says he has never met with anyone affiliated with Hunter Biden’s business and there is no evidence even in the new New York Post story that he did.

 

So, basically, we are dealing with a third-rate, bungled pile of nonsense here. What’s a social media company to do?

Platforms like YouTube, Twitter and Facebook have three choices when they flag potentially troublesome content. They can keep their hands off and let their users and algorithms do with the content what they wish to do, risking amplification.

 

This was the standard method of dealing with hate speech, misinformation and propaganda for most of the history of these companies. Second, they can choose to keep the problematic posts up on the service but “dial down” the amplifying power of the algorithms, slowing distribution, giving their staff time to research the posts and consider if further action is needed. This is almost always the wisest move.

Third, platforms could choose to block or purge an item completely. Given the scale of Facebook (2.7 billion users), YouTube (2 billion users), and Twitter (330 million users), deleting an item might seem like a major problem for the free flow of information. But it’s not. The original source remains untouched and accessible to most of the world. Nonetheless, by making this harshest of choices the platforms expose themselves to vitriol and risk generating the sort of backlash that can energize paranoid, conspiratorial movements like Q-Anon or Trump supporters.

 

Content moderation, the term of art for such policies and decisions, is a fool’s game. A company can’t win the public relations battle no matter what it does. Companies like Facebook, Twitter and Google don’t owe anyone a commitment to publish and promote their expressions. They need not defend free speech.

 

There are frequent calls for these companies to be more transparent and consistent in their moderation policies. But that’s expecting too much. Given the varieties of human expressions and cruelties, it seems impossible to predict all the different problems that might spring up that threaten people’s health, safety or democracy.

 

Either way, content moderation is necessary. Nobody should want massive systems of content distribution to foster Holocuast denial or call for violence against ethnic groups. Some of these questions feel easy (although for some reason, blocking Holocaust denial seemed like a hard choice for Mark Zuckerberg, raising some serious questions about his capacity for basic moral judgment). Most of them are hard.

 

Now, the completely discredited Raging Rudy has alleged there were underage images on the laptop. A desperado attempts to please his master. Anything for a vote. 

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https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-william-barr-elections-20fd56b64801dd83b1657c630a1ebdfa

 

President Donald Trump on Tuesday called on Attorney General William Barr to immediately launch an investigation into unverified claims about Democrat Joe Biden and his son Hunter, effectively demanding that the Justice Department muddy his political opponent and abandon its historic resistance to getting involved in elections.

With just two weeks to go before Election Day, Trump for the first time explicitly called on Barr to investigate the Bidens and even pointed to the nearing Nov. 3 election as reason that Barr should not delay taking action. Trump has been leveling accusations of corruption against Biden without verified evidence for months, but is stepping up the pressure in the final days of the campaign.

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https://news.yahoo.com/bill-barr-discovers-that-he-is-not-immune-to-trumps-wrath-153103627.html

 

For two years, William Barr has served President Trump with exemplary loyalty. Whether it came to Robert Mueller’s report about Russian electoral interference or last year’s impeachment trial, the U.S. attorney general always stood by the president, so much so that some wondered if he was acting more as the president’s private attorney than as the nation’s chief legal officer.

 

As other Cabinet members departed, voluntarily or under pressure, as rumors circulated that Trump might replace Mike Pence on the 2020 ticket, Barr remained a fixture in the Trumpian universe, articulating and justifying the president’s many grievances, whether against congressional Democrats or protesters in Portland, Ore. 

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3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Thread isn't about Trump.

Yes it is.  He's the one driving the investigations into this.  Otherwise, it'd be a non issue.  He failed with the Durham and Flynn investigations.  He's failing with this one also.

 

Using the DOJ to go after political opponents is horrible.  Sad some support it.

 

Oh...and he failed with the Ukraine investigations also. LOL.  How about focus on the hundreds dying every day of CV19?  Right...

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26 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

https://news.yahoo.com/bill-barr-discovers-that-he-is-not-immune-to-trumps-wrath-153103627.html

 

For two years, William Barr has served President Trump with exemplary loyalty. Whether it came to Robert Mueller’s report about Russian electoral interference or last year’s impeachment trial, the U.S. attorney general always stood by the president, so much so that some wondered if he was acting more as the president’s private attorney than as the nation’s chief legal officer.

 

As other Cabinet members departed, voluntarily or under pressure, as rumors circulated that Trump might replace Mike Pence on the 2020 ticket, Barr remained a fixture in the Trumpian universe, articulating and justifying the president’s many grievances, whether against congressional Democrats or protesters in Portland, Ore. 

Anything to say about the topic? Hunter Biden and his laptop if you've forgotten.

 

as rumors circulated that Trump might replace Mike Pence on the 2020 ticket,

Not averse to posting fake news then? Pence is very much Trump's VP choice.

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9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Anything to say about the topic? Hunter Biden and his laptop if you've forgotten.

 

as rumors circulated that Trump might replace Mike Pence on the 2020 ticket,

Not averse to posting fake news then? Pence is very much Trump's VP choice.

Read the OP.  Trump's name is mentioned several times.  As is Biden, Giuliani, Bannon, a pro-Trump repairman, Bolton, pro Trump OANN, etc, etc, etc.  So yes, this is all about Trump.

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On 10/20/2020 at 7:48 PM, Thaivisa Web Content Team said:

The story surrounding the alleged laptop of Hunter Biden, the son of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, has become the new Pizzagate—only this time, the conspiracy theory is being promoted not from the depths of 4chan, but by mainline conservatives.

 

Since the New York Post published what it claimed were emails written by Hunter last week, theories surrounding the alleged laptop have spiraled into increasingly conspiratorial territory.

The laptop, which was supposedly dropped off at a computer repair shop in Delaware and never picked back up, is now alleged to contain videos of Hunter torturing and abusing underage Chinese girls. It’s implausible, unlikely, and has not been proven. So where did this theory originate?

 

Questions regarding the laptop’s origins have existed since the beginning. The computer repairman who came into possession of the laptop claims to have given it to the FBI—but not before giving a copy of the hard drive to the lawyer of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

The Post says it was alerted to the laptop by none other than former White House advisor Steve Bannon before Giuliani, the personal lawyer to President Donald Trump, handed over the data.

 

But the computer repairman, a pro-Trump conspiracy theorist himself, admits he didn’t actually see Hunter drop off the laptop and has struggled to keep his story straight.

The alleged emails are also presented by the Post in pdf and image form, not in the actual email format that would be needed to help verify their authenticity. Although some of the laptop’s alleged contents appear to be legitimate, such as numerous private photos of Hunter, the rest of the data remains in question.

 

Giuliani’s ties to the story also raise red flags given that U.S. intelligence agencies reportedly warned Trump last year that Russian intelligence officers were attempting to feed Giuliani disinformation in an effort to harm Biden’s presidential run. Former National Security Advisor John Bolton even reportedly went as far as to warn his staff to steer clear of Giuliani as a result.

While no public evidence at this time suggests the laptop is linked to a foreign intelligence operation, numerous media outlets, including Fox News, turned the story down after being approached by Giuliani due to concerns regarding its credibility.

 

As reported by the New York Times, Giuliani ultimately offered the data up to the Post because “either nobody else would take it, or if they took it, they would spend all the time they could to try to contradict it before they put it out.”

 

Even after being accepted by the Post, however, the story continued to receive pushback. The Post’s first story on Hunter is said to have largely been written by an employee who refused to have his name added to the piece due to verification and credibility issues.

 

The expanding number of issues with the story has done little to deter conservatives, who believe the allegations against Hunter are key to defeating Biden in November.

The story has since taken a dark turn and has seemingly morphed into its own updated version of Pizzagate, the conspiracy theory that led one man to open fire inside a Washington, D.C. pizzeria that he believed was operating a Democrat-run child sex trafficking ring.

 

Over the weekend, claims began spreading on sites such as 4chan that Hunter’s laptop contained child pornography.

 

The story took off after a 4chan user alleging to be Chanel Rion, the White House correspondent for the rabidly pro-Trump One America News Network (OANN), claimed that evidence of Hunter engaging in pedophilia was set to be revealed.

 

Despite Rion stating on Twitter that the anonymous post was not made by her, the incident helped launch a tidal wave of conspiratorial claims online. It wasn’t long before prominent conservative figures were repeating the claim on social media.

 

In a tweet on Sunday, conservative radio host and noted conspiracy theorist Wayne Allyn Root repeated the claim to his more than 100,000 followers. Root claims “sources” revealed to him that the videos on the laptop show “Hunter raping & torturing little Chinese children.”

 

The tweet, which concludes that the elder Biden is unelectable due to being compromised and blackmailed, has been shared more than 38,000 times.

 

The claim eventually made its way to Fox News, where host Maria Bartiromo repeated the allegation that the laptop could contain child pornography during an interview with Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.).

 

The allegation appears to be a combination of two prominent conspiracy theories tied to Pizzagate. One, known as FrazzleDrip, alleged that video existed on the dark web showing former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and her campaign aide Huma Abedin torturing a child. The second surrounded the laptop of disgraced politician Anthony Weiner, which conspiracy theorists claimed was filled with similar exploitive material that ultimately led Clinton to murder numerous New York City police officers in an effort to keep the contents from becoming public.

 

While such conspiracies were largely ignored by the conservative mainstream back then—also right before an election—the Hunter laptop allegations come at a time when such outlandish theories are commonplace in prominent right-wing circles.

 

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This post is not aging well.

And it's getting worse:

https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/hunter-biz-partner-confirms-e-mail-details-joe-bidens-push-to-make-millions-from-china/

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1 hour ago, Damual Travesty said:

Ron Reagan has an opinion as does everyone. You are right Hunter is not the candidate. However, his Father is, and if he was getting foreign deals and kicking funds back to his Father then this really does matter - a lot. To all Americans. What was obvious before seems to be really obvious now. I guess the final straw will be a clear discussion of payment, or a clear paper trail of payment through bank records, or other transaction records.  If such evidence were to be found - at that point would you stop defending the Bidens' or would that still not be enough?

 

I expect Biden to resign his candidacy in any minute. Just a hunch.

    That would still not be enough--and seems rather small potatoes even if true.   As I said, anything would pale against all the corrupt things the Trumps have done.  You seem to be ignoring all the Trump corruption; apparently it's ok for the Trumps to be corrupt, I guess because they are Trumps and it's just their nature and they can't help it. 

     But, it's not just the corruption.  Trump becomes more unhinged every day.  He is truly scary--as so many people who have worked for him are now saying.  There's a reason all these Republicans, administration officials, military leaders, ex-Cabinet members, and others have spoken out and are supporting Biden.  Here you have a president talking about calling up the CEO of Exxon and asking for a 25 million dollar bribe.  No he didn't do that particular corrupt thing but that's where his mind set is, that's what he is thinking about, rather than all the things a president should be focused on--like 213,000 dead from covid on his watch.

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3 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

 

 

There is a big difference between free speech and not passing on a known fake story. Free speech isnt the constitutional right to pass on a fake story.

 

People exercise their free speech by saying the earth is flat, the media is not censoring free speech by not passing on the flat earth theory or saying the earth is round

ultimately, i rather get the material so i can verify validity of a claim, then to have some organization filtering what i am allowed to read.

 

Boltzmann & Einstein were once viewed as revolutionaries

spreading misinformation, but are now valued as the most basic pillars of our understanding of universe.

we wouldnt have gotten anywhere if they had been censored  and silenced

 

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