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7 hours ago, tonray said:

Not acceptable. Needs to have banks official stamp

I downloaded my 12 month statement which is on bank letter head and it did not have the bank's official stamp. Accepted without any issues. So I guess that's another example of different IO's wanting something different.

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Having stumbled into the '12 months of Bank statements' at my last renewal I now enter all incoming payments onto an XL spreadsheet each month which can automatically be totaled up when I next apply. 

Just download the mobile banking app, you can get a 1 year sytatement in minutes..

Not acceptable. Needs to have banks official stamp

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12 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

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I still don't understand why anyone would wait so late to do their extension.

When applying for the 1-year extension of stay based on your original Non Imm O-A Visa for reason of retirement, IO requires that you have a Thai IO-approved health-insurance policy.  And you are stamped in for 1-year of policy expiry date, whichever is shorter.  

Some IOs also require that the policy is already active on the day of application.  So if you apply 30 days early, you will lose those 30 days and only be stamped in for 11 months (till policy expiry date).

Hence the reason that those applicants wait till final days of permission to stay expiry to apply for their 1-year extension.

Of course they could have requested their local bank branch earlier for the 12-month bank statement as it can take up to 5 work-days at some bank branches to provide it.

But as this 12-month bank-statement is also a new requirement, some applicants might not be aware that it often cannot be provided on the spot and combined with the start-date of the insurance-policy they might have been 'taken by surprise' by the long processing time at some bank branches.

 

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11 hours ago, Speedhump said:

He is not talking about that, he is talking about monthly proof of transfer from overseas....

No he is not. From the OP.

On 10/22/2020 at 12:19 AM, patrickl said:

Asking this for a friend who is doing a 1 year retirement renewal using monthly pension (60k + difference in bank) from overseas with Embassy letter.

 

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24 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

No he is not. From the OP.

 

Yes he is, monthly transfers rather than 800k in the bank. The post I replied to was explaining the 800k method, I was saying their answer was not relevant to the OP. 

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2 minutes ago, Speedhump said:

Yes he is, monthly transfers rather than 800k in the bank.

He using a embassy issued proof of income to prove his income not monthly transfers.

He is using the combination of income and money in the bank to reach a total of  800k baht. They are wanting proof that his money in bank was kept at the correct balance required by the rules for a year after his previous extension.

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13 hours ago, Speedhump said:

Immigration in Hua Hin require 12 monthly statements specifically showing that the monthly income has come from overseas.

HH also accept 2 x 6 month statements.

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1 hour ago, cnxnicho said:

Chiang Mai Imm accepted 12 months downloaded from online banking,  no stamp required !

Great if I lived in Chiang Mai..but don't

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What I dont understand is why Immigration and the Banks dont talk to each other. It's a chargeable revenue earning service for the banks. The Bank check the records and  issue the documents for a fee. The Bank get a big wad of long term cash in the accounts.  Immigration get the exact paperwork they need. Customers get a simple process.  After a fight last year I called the Kasikorn Bank help desk and suggested they had one branch that  understood the requirement and offered a template service for a fee near each immigration office. They could not comprehend why it was a good idea. I have a million baht in an account, pay 250 Baht a year for an ATM card and still have an annual fight to get a printed statement in a format acceptable to immigration that I also have to pay for.

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45 minutes ago, happydays said:

HH also accept 2 x 6 month statements.

Not at the start of this year. If they do now then that's an advancement of sorts. But Kbsnk will only print off the last three months free anyway, then 500 baht for each earlier statement, so best to keep on top of it. 

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5 minutes ago, turgid said:

What I dont understand is why Immigration and the Banks dont talk to each other. It's a chargeable revenue earning service for the banks. The Bank check the records and  issue the documents for a fee. The Bank get a big wad of long term cash in the accounts.  Immigration get the exact paperwork they need. Customers get a simple process.  After a fight last year I called the Kasikorn Bank help desk and suggested they had one branch that  understood the requirement and offered a template service for a fee near each immigration office. They could not comprehend why it was a good idea. I have a million baht in an account, pay 250 Baht a year for an ATM card and still have an annual fight to get a printed statement in a format acceptable to immigration that I also have to pay for.

Immigration doesn't care about making your life easier. They are in the office 9-5 whether it's easy for you or not. Sending you away for a bank statement is less effort than dealing with the banks...that's on us.

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2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

He using a embassy issued proof of income to prove his income not monthly transfers.

He is using the combination of income and money in the bank to reach a total of  800k baht. They are wanting proof that his money in bank was kept at the correct balance required by the rules for a year after his previous extension.

Ah yes, thanks, so he needs proof of both actually, including proof of transfer from outside Thailand. Got it. 

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5 minutes ago, turgid said:

What I dont understand is why Immigration and the Banks dont talk to each other. It's a chargeable revenue earning service for the banks. The Bank check the records and  issue the documents for a fee. The Bank get a big wad of long term cash in the accounts.  Immigration get the exact paperwork they need. Customers get a simple process.  After a fight last year I called the Kasikorn Bank help desk and suggested they had one branch that  understood the requirement and offered a template service for a fee near each immigration office. They could not comprehend why it was a good idea. I have a million baht in an account, pay 250 Baht a year for an ATM card and still have an annual fight to get a printed statement in a format acceptable to immigration that I also have to pay for.

Yes, a very good idea and it would bring the first Thai Bank that adopts it a considerable advantage for capturing a large chunk of the Foreigner Banking business.  Also quite easy to implement and run a pilot project to test whether it would fly (it will).

An innovative Thai Bank would simply have to add a separate 'Foreign Customer Service' counter in a branche located close to an IO in a province with many foreigners living there (e.g. near the IO in Phuket, CM, Jomtien or CW).

That counter would need to be manned with a fluent english-speaking desk-officer knowledgeable in IO banking requirements, and the branch would pride themselves in making it easy to open a new account there and easy to get any needed IO bank-statements.

Many foreigners would open a new account there, and if the Bank lives up to its promise, they would become the Bank choice of preference for foreigners needing IO banking-services.

But I guess that that kind of entrepreneurial foresight and vision is lacking in Thai banking...

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52 minutes ago, Speedhump said:

Ah yes, thanks, so he needs proof of both actually, including proof of transfer from outside Thailand. Got it. 

There is no requirement for proof of transfers from abroad if you have proof of income from a embassy. Immigration could ask for proof of that income but it does no have to be proof of transfers. It could be something from the source of the income such as a penrion statement.

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On 10/22/2020 at 8:28 AM, ubonjoe said:

They are wanting proof this year that full the full amount of the money in the bank stayed in the bank for 3 months and then half of it for the remainder of the year.

Apparently that is Bangkok Bank since they are the only one needing a week to get them as far as I know. If it is Bangkok Bank and he is near Bangkok he could go the to the main office on Silom Road and get it while he waits.

There is no extension he can apply for. But there would be no overstay fine until after the 31st. But he needs to talk to the office where he is applying about doing his extension a few days late.

 

 

I obtain a statement from Bangkok Bank every 6 months, which is supplied while you wait for 100 baht.

Both 6 months statements are accepted along with the letter confirming it is indeed my account, by my IO.

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