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That is a laughable comment, dogs are abandoned here almost daily, nothing is ever done to the owners, except of course if they expats.

Embarrassed that an Irish guy did this. I can sort of understand why Thais do it, most have no idea how to handle a dog (or, indeed, most aspects of life), but I'd expect more of a fellow Irishman.

Because Thais care so much about their animals right ? ... give me a break...

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"I think the reporter got that wrong. Their website says 27 USD a month"

 

Maybe not. Soi Dog hit the bonanza with the "stop the dog meat trade" fundraising program. According to Guidstar.org SoiDog USA took in over $USD 6Million last year just in USA donations and have an equally active fundraising program in Europe. I have not seen any financial info in their annual reports. I was a donor - but would like a bit more transparency about where the money goes 🙂

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22 hours ago, Wuvu2 said:

"I think the reporter got that wrong. Their website says 27 USD a month"

 

Maybe not. Soi Dog hit the bonanza with the "stop the dog meat trade" fundraising program. According to Guidstar.org SoiDog USA took in over $USD 6Million last year just in USA donations and have an equally active fundraising program in Europe. I have not seen any financial info in their annual reports. I was a donor - but would like a bit more transparency about where the money goes 🙂

Soi Dog does have a financial paragraph in their annual statement and they have an accountant auditing their statements. In 2019 they had a annual income of about $ 11 million and running expenditures of about $ 10 million. What people don't know is that their program goes far further than only sheltering dogs and cats. They have an educational program for schools. They give aid to other, even government runned shelters. They have mobile rescue teams, et cetera. Looking at their animal hospital, that's state of the art. I'm sure all the donations are well spend!

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Would seem Soi Dog is a organization just trying to bleed money from the gullible. 

 

Don't they look after unwanted dogs? Or they only claim to look after dogs they have rescued from mythical places. Or are they simply annoyed that the guy did it after hours. He left the dog in a place he thought the dog would get looked after but oh no... I'm sure a dog left outside Battersea Dogs' Home would get well looked after and the owner would not be hounded by the organization and the law.

 

I suspect the action is to stop others doing this and then maybe they would actually have to look after stray or unwanted dogs.

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58 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Would seem Soi Dog is a organization just trying to bleed money from the gullible. 

 

Don't they look after unwanted dogs? Or they only claim to look after dogs they have rescued from mythical places. Or are they simply annoyed that the guy did it after hours. He left the dog in a place he thought the dog would get looked after but oh no... I'm sure a dog left outside Battersea Dogs' Home would get well looked after and the owner would not be hounded by the organization and the law.

 

I suspect the action is to stop others doing this and then maybe they would actually have to look after stray or unwanted dogs.

 

Neal, they do look after unwanted dogs BUT what they are against is someone dropping a dog off nearby in rain next to a busy and fast public street where it's extremely dangerous for the dog because he will try to run after the owners car as explained in the article. Wouldn't be the first dog that gets smashed to bits. And Soi Dog know all too well because they are the ones then trying to help wounded dogs. Yes the action is to hopefully stop others from doings this because it's not the right thing to do.

 

And to the other people in the thread bashing "oh only against farang, what about Thai!"... Soi Dog is run by farangs you numbnuts!

 

What I do would like to see is a complete breakdown of their finances, much more detailed than what the annual report shows because by now they grew so big that I think it's warranted and to instill confidence in people who are thinking about donating that their funds wont end up in a place they wouldn't want. In fact I think every charity should be required to do so by law. It's the main reason I don't contribute financially but rather do the right thing in my life (take good care of my dog and don't inrease the stray dog problem).

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2 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

they are against is someone dropping a dog off nearby in rain next to a busy and fast public street where it's extremely dangerous for the dog because he will try to run after the owners car as explained in the article.

 

This I understand but litigation? This smacks of self righteousness, which is not something one would expect from a charitable organization, run by charitable people. A simple tut-tut or tsk-tsk would have sufficed. 

 

This whole litigation thing stinks of social media and self promotion rather than the actual care of animals.

 

Soi Dogs might currently be a farang organization But wait  until some enterprising local reads about the 10M annual income! 

 

Sometimes it is better to keep one's head down and avoid publicity.

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19 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

 

This I understand but litigation? This smacks of self righteousness, which is not something one would expect from a charitable organization, run by charitable people. A simple tut-tut or tsk-tsk would have sufficed. 

 

This whole litigation thing stinks of social media and self promotion rather than the actual care of animals.

 

Soi Dogs might currently be a farang organization But wait  until some enterprising local reads about the 10M annual income! 

 

Sometimes it is better to keep one's head down and avoid publicity.

 

I get where you are coming from. But not sure how realistic a tsk-tsk is given that they had to rely on the police to find out who that person was. At that point you already started the process. They can't stop it easily anymore because it's not "them against him". It's him against the law so there is no way to settle. They probably also know that the fine is pretty low and I can also totally see them having tried many-a-tsk-tsk before which didn't achieve much. After all it still happens. They have a strong stance that such behaviour is not ok and the law agrees.

 

It's like a charity that helps with the litter problem by going around and cleaning up the side of the road, saw someone littering and reported them to the police. I would suspect not many people would see an issue with that.

 

I don't think they run a risk of being taken over by a local. Not after being endorsed royally and having entities in a few other countries. But I do think the numbers are pretty big and therefor the risk that someone tries to etract profit for themselves is very very real. Only thorough transparency can combat that and that's currently missing.

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6 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Would seem Soi Dog is a organization just trying to bleed money from the gullible. 

 

Don't they look after unwanted dogs? Or they only claim to look after dogs they have rescued from mythical places. Or are they simply annoyed that the guy did it after hours. He left the dog in a place he thought the dog would get looked after but oh no... I'm sure a dog left outside Battersea Dogs' Home would get well looked after and the owner would not be hounded by the organization and the law.

 

I suspect the action is to stop others doing this and then maybe they would actually have to look after stray or unwanted dogs.

Don't they have doorbells in Ireland? Couldn't he knock on the door instead of throwing the dog out in front of their door without leaving any notice and drive away as fast as possible? Afraid it would cost him money? Why blaming Soi Dogs for somebody else breaking the law? And all you can do is complaining about al these barking soi dogs,  while your fellow countrymen are throwing them on the streets when they start to cost real money! What a joke!

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4 hours ago, eisfeld said:

 

I get where you are coming from. But not sure how realistic a tsk-tsk is given that they had to rely on the police to find out who that person was. At that point you already started the process. They can't stop it easily anymore because it's not "them against him". It's him against the law so there is no way to settle. They probably also know that the fine is pretty low and I can also totally see them having tried many-a-tsk-tsk before which didn't achieve much. After all it still happens. They have a strong stance that such behaviour is not ok and the law agrees.

 

It's like a charity that helps with the litter problem by going around and cleaning up the side of the road, saw someone littering and reported them to the police. I would suspect not many people would see an issue with that.

 

I don't think they run a risk of being taken over by a local. Not after being endorsed royally and having entities in a few other countries. But I do think the numbers are pretty big and therefor the risk that someone tries to etract profit for themselves is very very real. Only thorough transparency can combat that and that's currently missing.

Better have a look at their site. Transparency isn't missing. They produce annual and audited statements. Why you people all keep shouting nonsense. To much trouble to investigate a bit?

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On 10/23/2020 at 4:10 PM, sencelebi said:

Can you abandon your child , or can you say that you came into situation that you can't have the child anymore to take care? can you abandon your pet in your own country and say you can't  have it anymore?

Not in their own country, but in Thailand they suddenly think it's no problem!

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22 minutes ago, hilfinad said:

Better have a look at their site. Transparency isn't missing. They produce annual and audited statements. Why you people all keep shouting nonsense. To much trouble to investigate a bit?

I have read the annual review but there is only a very high level breakdown, not much detail. The general public cannot see the audited statements. In fact I am the one to mention that they write a financial overview in their annual report that I also linked to right in this topic! I also mentioned the audited statements so it's unclear to me why you'd tell me that. It's definitely a good thing that they publish these figures. I just personally think there can be done more. I don't know why you are so aggressively barking at me, I was defending the Soi Dog Foundation 🙂

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54 minutes ago, hilfinad said:

Why blaming Soi Dogs for somebody else breaking the law?

 

What law did he break?

54 minutes ago, hilfinad said:

And all you can do is complaining about al these barking soi dogs

 

I have never complained about barking dogs who live on the street. They are God's creatures as well. OK if you are Buddhist you may believe they were bad people in a previous life but they also live here.

 

From what I can glean from this news story. Soi Dogs does not actually want any dogs. They would actually be happier without dogs as long as supporters pay 10M a year.

 

As I intimated earlier a real animal charity would be more interested in the welfare of the animal than the antics of the previous owner.

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