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17 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Check your BIOS (like I recommended in an earlier post).

When I did that on my PC I could see the M.2 with different BIOS settings. But I saw the M.2 in different ways. I think in the Windows Disk Manager one time it was the first device and one time not - to name just one little difference.

And you can use a performance tool to check how fast it works. This is what I saw with my M.2 with 

CrystalDiskMark 7

https://crystalmark.info/
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For comparison, this is what my old SSD showed:

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it appears I am ok, look at my results next to yours471363893_Screenshot(1)_LI.jpg.5ab924a1b5a2fac4f8f8f05a9351d632.jpg471363893_Screenshot(1)_LI.jpg.5ab924a1b5a2fac4f8f8f05a9351d632.jpg

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Clone existing drive to SSD. I used Macrium Reflect free version..worked like a champ

Why say such a thing? Assuming the o/p's hardware can connect to an M.2 card drive then it would boost the disk read/write speed by a factor of several times. What's wrong with that?

should have listen to @Bruno123 in the beginning.... like I should had read the details you gave me for the True card, thanks

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2 hours ago, Bruno123 said:

 

 

Boot into the BIOS setup using F2; go to System Configuration and scroll down to Storage Interface. Is RAID selected or AHCI?

finally got to the storage info and it says RAID selected..... also sata 0 and sata 1 were on and I turned them off as I don't have any sata but it shows Samsung 970 EVO plus 1 TB and RAID, wanted a screen shot but it doesn't allow if from that screen

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1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

it appears I am ok, look at my results next to yours471363893_Screenshot(1)_LI.jpg.5ab924a1b5a2fac4f8f8f05a9351d632.jpg471363893_Screenshot(1)_LI.jpg.5ab924a1b5a2fac4f8f8f05a9351d632.jpg

On the first view it looks good to me.

But it's interesting that sometimes your and my numbers are almost the same, some of my values are almost double than yours and some of yours are almost double than my values.

I have to admit I am too lazy to look up the details and the possible reasons for that.

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1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

finally got to the storage info and it says RAID selected..... also sata 0 and sata 1 were on and I turned them off as I don't have any sata but it shows Samsung 970 EVO plus 1 TB and RAID, wanted a screen shot but it doesn't allow if from that screen

Be careful what you change!

Worst case you won't be able to boot into your operating system anymore.

Or when the computer boots it detects changes and loads new drivers. That can be real headache if it goes wrong.

For that reason normally RAID and AHCI should not be changed once the operation system is installed.

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3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Be careful what you change!

Worst case you won't be able to boot into your operating system anymore.

Or when the computer boots it detects changes and loads new drivers. That can be real headache if it goes wrong.

For that reason normally RAID and AHCI should not be changed once the operation system is installed.

All appears to be running well, no faster nor slower.... but still have the error telling me to update the damn driver and still can't do it, contacted Dell am waiting for their answer, Samsung site all in Thai impossible to contact them, check the screen shot from samsung magician, on the top it shows the error

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On 10/25/2020 at 7:06 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

Check your BIOS (like I recommended in an earlier post).

When I did that on my PC I could see the M.2 with different BIOS settings. But I saw the M.2 in different ways. I think in the Windows Disk Manager one time it was the first device and one time not - to name just one little difference.

And you can use a performance tool to check how fast it works. This is what I saw with my M.2 with 

CrystalDiskMark 7

https://crystalmark.info/
NewSSD.jpg.9b95950bf8fdc2bd780b1435aff3e23f.jpg

 

For comparison, this is what my old SSD showed:

OrgSSD.jpg.b416e32fb1147ea02520ad6a173751ec.jpg

 

4 lanes on PCIe that the current crop of NVMe drive use will give you a maximum bandwidth of just under 4GB/s (4000MB/s). With the overhead for the controller and Win drivers, your NVMe card seems to peak out and using maximum bandwidth available. My figures are about the same for a Samsung 970 Evo Plus. it takes about 2-3 seconds to boot to Windows 10 desktop after BIOs finishes. I have an ASUS MoBo and didn't had to configure anything for the drive except for booting sequence.

 

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14 hours ago, Mavideol said:

All appears to be running well, no faster nor slower.... but still have the error telling me to update the damn driver and still can't do it, contacted Dell am waiting for their answer, Samsung site all in Thai impossible to contact them, check the screen shot from samsung magician, on the top it shows the error

Screenshot (4).png

I think the error message is clear.

Look which drivers your drive is using and replace it with the MS drivers.

Maybe your current drivers is newer than the MS driver and this is the reason why MS is not updating it automatically.

Sometimes it's necessary to do this manually...

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21 hours ago, Mavideol said:

finally got to the storage info and it says RAID selected..... also sata 0 and sata 1 were on and I turned them off as I don't have any sata but it shows Samsung 970 EVO plus 1 TB and RAID, wanted a screen shot but it doesn't allow if from that screen

 

There is your answer. It needed to be changed to AHCI prior to installation.

 

But you can fix it without having to reinstall Windows 10.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ngnIKqPOc4

 

http://triplescomputers.com/blog/uncategorized/solution-switch-windows-10-from-raidide-to-ahci-operation/

 

 

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21 hours ago, Mavideol said:

finally got to the storage info and it says RAID selected..... also sata 0 and sata 1 were on and I turned them off as I don't have any sata but it shows Samsung 970 EVO plus 1 TB and RAID, wanted a screen shot but it doesn't allow if from that screen

 

Make sure that you preserve the spaces when entering the commands:

 

bcdedit /set safeboot minimal

 

There is one after 'bcdedit', but not one before 'set'

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4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think the error message is clear.

Look which drivers your drive is using and replace it with the MS drivers.

Maybe your current drivers is newer than the MS driver and this is the reason why MS is not updating it automatically.

Sometimes it's necessary to do this manually...

I have been trying for the past week or so to update the driver from any possible site, MS/Windows, Samsung, Dell, Cnet and still no update, always goes back to the existing driver dated 2006

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2 hours ago, Bruno123 said:

 

Make sure that you preserve the spaces when entering the commands:

 

bcdedit /set safeboot minimal

 

There is one after 'bcdedit', but not one before 'set'

Should I understand that I should be running in AHCI and not RAID..... I think my bios allows me to change between Raid  and AHCI, is it the best way to go or is it better/safer to go with the links you provided

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1 minute ago, Mavideol said:

Should I understand that I should be running in AHCI and not RAID..... I think my bios allows me to change between Raid  and AHCI, is it the best way to go or is it better/safer to go with the links you provided

Don't change it when your OS is already setup for one or the other.

Changing it means often trouble. Part of that trouble is that Windows installs different drivers and changes things (maybe drive letters and more). And once Windows did that you can't easily go back to what it was.

Been there, done that...

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2 hours ago, Bruno123 said:

 

Make sure that you preserve the spaces when entering the commands:

 

bcdedit /set safeboot minimal

 

There is one after 'bcdedit', but not one before 'set'

does the word "Current" means C drive or no need to use the word

 

Type this command and press ENTER: bcdedit /set {current} safeboot minimal

 

Type this command and press ENTER: bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot

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2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Don't change it when your OS is already setup for one or the other.

Changing it means often trouble. Part of that trouble is that Windows installs different drivers and changes things (maybe drive letters and more). And once Windows did that you can't easily go back to what it was.

Been there, done that...

that means I should re-install Windows from scratch or restore from backup or keep running in RAID mode ?

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3 hours ago, Mavideol said:

that means I should re-install Windows from scratch or restore from backup or keep running in RAID mode ?

I suggest keep running in RAID mode.

As far as I remember that has no disadvantage.

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