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"Drastic" losses to Thai tourism with 1.57 TRILLION baht hit, admits tourism minister


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Send the bill to your mates in Beijing.  They let the Wuhan China virus out so they can make restitution to every country effected.  

For some reason, I'm not feeling it for the Phuket tuk-tuk mafia and their families, you know the ones who want B200 to go a kilometer down the road...and if you have the temerity to negotiate tell yo

It was the paranoid reaction of the government to the pandemic rather than the pandemic itself which caused these 1.57 trillion losses to Thai tourism.    Instead of gradually opening the co

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3 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Good, now they have an excuse to take a loan from CCP and let them trigger the debt trap, effectively doing what the Sino-Thais want: selling the country to China.

Alternatively, as of now, countries heavily indebted to China have an excuse to coordinate and jointly default. (This might even be covered by force majeure clauses in their debt covenants. But I'm not a lawyer or sovereign bond expert so don't quote me...)

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16 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:


And yet its not a simple binary choice.. I am running multiple businesses in UK and Europe, they have not tried to shut borders, and yet thier economies are also massively down, far more than the 10% GDP top line that seems to be the economist guesses. Businesses I am talking to and dealing with are in dire straights, many just hanging on with all reserves gone, one of my clients (who owes me a decent chunk of EUR) recently been taken to hospital, worksites in chaos etc etc. 

Expats in Thailand seem to talk as though opening the borders solves Thailands problem, in reality it will merely generate another domestic problem across all sectors of the economy not just tourism. Plus if they do open, who is coming ?? Travel and tourism is decimated anyway, so it may be a case of bearing the cost for only a fraction of the upside. 

Expats in thailand are in a secure bubble, which they seem to feel the need to criticise. I left Thailand in august and have been travelling since, its not pretty out there. 

I'm suggesting the government needs to do some serious thinking. Said nothing about a binary choice, and there can certainly be forms of opening the border that allow the people who can or want or need - nevermind actual tourists - to return to Thailand to do so under controlled and safe circumstances and in turn bring in much needed money.

 

Travel is decimated - down just 10% - you should look up the origin of the word. Nitpicking aside, yes travel is down, but by your own admission you've been travelling for 3 months so there is tourism out there.

 

My point was Thailand has possibly over relied on tourism and so will suffer more than others. Only time will tell.

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3 hours ago, Flying Saucage said:

It was the paranoid reaction of the government to the pandemic rather than the pandemic itself which caused these 1.57 trillion losses to Thai tourism. 

 

Instead of gradually opening the country months ago after having learned about the virus and it's transmission and treatment, they decided to block any tourists from coming. So what did they expect, other than ruining the industry?

 

But of course, there is this masterplan of the generals, to sell the country to China in order to line up the own pockets. So nothing else was to expect.

 

Yes right. Meanwhile in the real world, WHO recognizes that Thailand has handled the pandemic brilliantly compared to all those wonderful "first world" nations in Europe, the US, Aussie etc. They all put money before people and are now enjoying their second lockdowns, curbs and curfews. 

 

Dumb idea not to close the borders and have millions affected.

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4 minutes ago, pkrv said:

there can certainly be forms of opening the border that allow the people who can or want or need - nevermind actual tourists - to return to Thailand to do so under controlled and safe circumstances and in turn bring in much needed money.


But they already are.. I applied for my COE to come back next month, 100% painless, took less than 2 days start to finish, everything booked and arranged.. Every week they open a new class of visa, property owners, elite, wealthy etc.. On top of the already married, Thai family etc.. 

People need to view the howling old folks who cant work a website with significant scepticism.. OA needs insurance and 800k.. Show that for the over 50s and you you can have a COE to come next week. 

General tourism and quaratine free travel isnt there, but Thailand is hardly closed, and people making those claims are generally the pennyless ones who offer very limited upside for Thailand anyway. 

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1 hour ago, soi3eddie said:

If exploring I always used to rent a car or motorcycle when going to Phuket. Much cheaper than frequently taking taxis and tuk tuks and more convenient too.

Much safer too...not risking a blow to the head.

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8 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:


But they already are.. I applied for my COE to come back next month, 100% painless, took less than 2 days start to finish, everything booked and arranged.. Every week they open a new class of visa, property owners, elite, wealthy etc.. On top of the already married, Thai family etc.. 

People need to view the howling old folks who cant work a website with significant scepticism.. OA needs insurance and 800k.. Show that for the over 50s and you you can have a COE to come next week. 

General tourism and quaratine free travel isnt there, but Thailand is hardly closed, and people making those claims are generally the pennyless ones who offer very limited upside for Thailand anyway. 

Judging by a lot of the posts on TV I think there are many who can contribute but are struggling to do so because of the inconsistent or difficult hoops they need to jump through - I never said I was one of them.

 

And don't presume to know my circumstances - I have an Elite visa and have a property here and several back in the UK, so I'm not one of your "penniless ones". I do however have empathy for those who are struggling to live their lives and be with the ones they care about in TH.

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57 minutes ago, BigStar said:

We also always ignore the Mastercard Index, which happens to correlate pretty well. Mastercard doesn't count transit lounge visitors or day crossings by Laotians that TAT: TVF insists are being counted. Check out a few years of Mastercard: https://www.traveldailymedia.com/thailand-no-1-destination-on-mastercards-global-index/

I checked Mastercard's data source before. Government agencies -> TAT.

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I blame it all on Covid 19 . its thanks to China its all happened yet Thailand want them all to come back . But the chinese government won't let them anyway 

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