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BREAKING: French woman on Koh Samui tests positive for COVID-19


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So either the 14 day quarantine is a load of BS or Thailand isn't as secure as they lead us to believe...  

That's the "Covid free Thailand" up the Suwanee !  She may have caught it from an untested Thai.

Increase quarantine ro 3 weeks

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6 minutes ago, AbeNormal said:

really ?

 

how do you know this

 

as I understand it there is no accurate rapid test under 24hrs especially if testing lots of people at the same location all at once

 

They told me everyone was swab tested early in the morning, and 10 people were denied entry into the ceremony based on the results. Whether the test is accurate or not is anyones guess.

 

Either the test is rushed and inaccurate, or there are cases in Thailand beyond the official "zero" figure (although very low).

 

My guess is probably a combination of both.

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28 minutes ago, Jack Mountain said:

The Quarantine Procedure means that you are in the same group of people at the same location? or are there new arrivals coming during that 14 day period who can infect those who are about to leave? 

An interesting question because the lady in question is apparently a Thai with dual nationality.

 

I wonder which type of quarantine facility she was in....

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13 minutes ago, Somtamnication said:

Soooooooo, there are infections not known by this government in Thailand?

 

The government are in a bit of a pickle here, either they admit that the quarantine system failed or they admit that COVID is on Samui

 

One or the other, there is no middle ground here.

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16 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

Exactly. Irrelevant to this case.

 

Either:

 

1. This woman is one of the less than 1% of people in whom there is an incubation period of greater than 2 weeks (indeed, 3 weeks)

 

or

 

2. She somehow got infected while in quarantine

 

or

 

3. Show got infected after leaving quarantine  in which case the incubation was unusually short.

 

None of these 3 scenarios are probable but one of them must be the case.

3 is the least likely in my opinion. As you indicate, she would have been infected within days after leaving quarantine. 

 

2 difficult to assess the possibility without knowing the conditions of the quarantine. If she were allowed to mingle with other quarantine guests after the first 7 days, then that’s a possibility. 

 

1 If 1% has an incubation longer than 14 days and right now hundreds of people have tested positive while in quarantine, then that it’s certainly very possible a few cases will have slipped through by now. 

 

It would be most likely that she was infected on the plane flying into Thailand and was one of the 1% with a long incubation time. 

Either that or she had contact with someone inside quarantine who tested positive later. 

 

Maybe the quarantine conditions should be more flexible;

1 test: negative is allowed to fly and enter Thailand quarantine. 

2 start quarantine: if everyone from an arriving plane tests negative after 10 days, let them all out. Alternatively if anyone from that group tests positive after 10 days, it’s likely infection on the plane happened, and everyone from that group has to do another 10 days just to be safe.

 

And during quarantine one should prevent any contacts with other people in quarantine. 

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27 minutes ago, themongoose said:

Its not a great surprise.

 

My partner just returned from the Rajabhat Graduation ceremony at Sakhon Nakhon last week. They tested everyone before entry into the ceremony hall and 10 people tested positive there.

 

Tested what? More likely took their temperature.

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51 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

That’s nonsense. 
 

That’s always the case with PCR tests, whether it’s Covid or Chlamydia. That’s why you don’t do a test of cure too close to an antimicrobial treatment, for example, as the body may still he flushing out dead cells (another reason is false negatives btw). 
 

You don’t just rely on one positive. You do confirmatory tests, which may include additional PCR Tests as well as x-Rays and looking at a patient‘s symptoms. 
 

PCR is super reliable and one of the best technologies available in modern diagnosis. There are infections that practically you can’t even detect without PCR. 
 

 

 

Is it? I've just head HSV1/HSV2 blood PCR tests, they cam back both negative which I find very hard to believe as I am absolutely certain I've head HSV1 since my early childhood, where there were always two or three kids with cold sores in the classroom.

I thought also that I was likely to test positive for HSV2, but not with any level of certainty.

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21 minutes ago, Somtamnication said:

Soooooooo, there are infections not known by this government in Thailand?

 

they've admitted this for a long time.  As has pretty much every other country in the world.

 

PCR tests are not 100% accurate.  And this virus is not 100% known.

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1 hour ago, Chelseafan said:

So either the 14 day quarantine is a load of BS or Thailand isn't as secure as they lead us to believe...

 

both, but I would add a 3rd one.... their testing sucks 555

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