tomauasia Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Oldie said: Can confirm this. Was at this Beach Road section in front of the Central Mall yesterday Sunday evening. Many people were on the Beach Road where these stalls were. And a lot were sitting on the Beach despite darkness. You wpukd to living there the first sign of any life form lol. But a waste of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/24/2020 at 10:37 PM, Golden Triangle said: So just how exactly is pronounced ? I hear Brits, Americans, Aussies, kiwi's, Irish in fact most English speaking nations call it Pattaya, even the guy on the radio and some of the local TV stations, so JAFO let us into your privileged world and let us all know where we have been going oh so wrong. PAT AAAY YAAA ???????? Who gives a monkey's. No-one pronounces it like that, the know nothings usually come out with Pat - ay - a or Pat - eye - a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerryd Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 As far as I've seen, there are at least 3 ways to spell and pronounce the name. I've seen it 3 different ways on on official highway signs as well. (Kind of like how there's a whack of ways to spell/say Soi Boon kan chana, depending on which street sign you look at or google maps.) Pattaya = Pa taa ya Phattaya = Pat taa ya Patthaya = Pat Tee ya However, it seems that pretty much everyone in the country (that I've encountered) knows exactly where I'm referring to, no matter how I pronounce it. As most gov't signs use "Pattaya", I'd say the first pronunciation is probably the more "correct" version but it's probably also subject to different pronunciations depending on the origin of the speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cauldlad Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I was at beach road yesterday afternoon. Just as quiet as every other Sunday!! Some of the tents were not even open!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 39 minutes ago, Kerryd said: As far as I've seen, there are at least 3 ways to spell and pronounce the name. I've seen it 3 different ways on on official highway signs as well. (Kind of like how there's a whack of ways to spell/say Soi Boon kan chana, depending on which street sign you look at or google maps.) Pattaya = Pa taa ya Phattaya = Pat taa ya Patthaya = Pat Tee ya However, it seems that pretty much everyone in the country (that I've encountered) knows exactly where I'm referring to, no matter how I pronounce it. As most gov't signs use "Pattaya", I'd say the first pronunciation is probably the more "correct" version but it's probably also subject to different pronunciations depending on the origin of the speaker. As with most other words in Thailand if the pronunciation is not 100% correct, you will not be understood. Of course in Pattaya they are used to it so people get away with it. Try telling them In the Nakhon that you are a ferrang from Patt - eye - a and it won't mean much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, rott said: As with most other words in Thailand if the pronunciation is not 100% correct, you will not be understood. Of course in Pattaya they are used to it so people get away with it. Try telling them In the Nakhon that you are a ferrang from Patt - eye - a and it won't mean much. True. Problem is, even though it may be pronounced several ways in Thai, the average farang who knows nothing about Thai pronunciation--and doesn't want to know--will use none of them but some vile English variant. It's one way the girls know who's more likely FOB, anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/24/2020 at 9:53 AM, Salerno said: Hmmmm, so masks on for temp check ... but then off again ... where is the so called "social distancing" ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomauasia Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 On 10/25/2020 at 5:52 PM, newnative said: And, when were those 7 years? Any time recently? I invite you back some holiday weekend to take a look at the north Pattaya Beach area--which has been totally transformed in the last few years, along with the beach. We have no international tourists right now yet on holiday weekends, and to a lesser extent regular weekends, the large hotels in north Pattaya Beach are mostly booked. Dusit, Cape Dara, Mytt, Mercure, Amari, Holiday Inn, Ozo, A-01, Grande Centre Point, Siam@Siam, and others, plus some of the smaller hotels. Who is filling all those rooms? Mostly domestic Thai tourists. Sure, we still get your Thais 'in the family pickup' coming to the beach for the day--and, happy to have them--but they are not the ones keeping the hotels open. 1 year ago and don't bother. I speak Thai and trained in several Thai boxing camps over the last 13 years. Dreamer there starving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) On 10/26/2020 at 1:34 AM, rott said: No-one pronounces it like that, the know nothings usually come out with Pat - ay - a or Pat - eye - a Just Patts for me. Seems to work. Otherwise Nongprue but the prue is a killer. Edited October 27, 2020 by polpott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 9:01 AM, Kerryd said: As most gov't signs use "Pattaya", I'd say the first pronunciation is probably the more "correct" version but it's probably also subject to different pronunciations depending on the origin of the speaker. It is disrespectful and the Thais do not like it. The proper pronunciation should be based on the people and country of origin, not what foreigners decide in their mind what to say. Most British say it incorrectly. What if people came to London and called it Loondan? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, tomauasia said: 1 year ago and don't bother. I speak Thai and trained in several Thai boxing camps over the last 13 years. Dreamer there starving Okay. You haven't been here in a year--a lot can happen in a year and don't we all now know it. I actually live in north Pattaya Beach. Perhaps I might be a better observer of what is now happening in my neck of the woods on holiday weekends than you. I'm curious, though, how training in Thai boxing camps helps you determine what's happening now on holiday weekends in Pattaya. Just a guess but I think the Thais filling all the north Pattaya Beach hotel rooms on holiday weekends are mostly from Bangkok and probably few are boxers. Edited October 27, 2020 by newnative typo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 53 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: It is disrespectful and the Thais do not like it. The proper pronunciation should be based on the people and country of origin, not what foreigners decide in their mind what to say. Most British say it incorrectly. What if people came to London and called it Loondan? As I know it the Thai pronunciation is Pat a yar. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. French people say Londres, not sure about others but I doubt that it is Landan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 7:25 AM, tomauasia said: You wpukd to living there the first sign of any life form lol. But a waste of time Is English your native language.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomauasia Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, rott said: Is English your native language.? Phone issue and time but toddle along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomauasia Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, newnative said: Okay. You haven't been here in a year--a lot can happen in a year and don't we all now know it. I actually live in north Pattaya Beach. Perhaps I might be a better observer of what is now happening in my neck of the woods on holiday weekends than you. I'm curious, though, how training in Thai boxing camps helps you determine what's happening now on holiday weekends in Pattaya. Just a guess but I think the Thais filling all the north Pattaya Beach hotel rooms on holiday weekends are mostly from Bangkok and probyably few are boxers. Give it a rest. I speak to Thais in Pattaya it's a starving ghost town. Go ask the business owners. How they feel about Thai tourism lol. Cheap Charlie's. Do they send money to Thai gf family and spend money in bars. They are there subsidized. Cheap Charlie's. Pattaya wants western tourists back and Paryut and the five clan gone. Next 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 51 minutes ago, tomauasia said: Phone issue and time but toddle along I was puzzling for a while over "dreamer there starving" until I realised that by "there" you meant "they are". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 On 10/25/2020 at 4:52 PM, newnative said: We have no international tourists right now yet on holiday weekends, and to a lesser extent regular weekends, the large hotels in north Pattaya Beach are mostly booked. Dusit, Cape Dara, Mytt, Mercure, Amari, Holiday Inn, Ozo, A-01, Grande Centre Point, Siam@Siam, and others, plus some of the smaller hotels. Who is filling all those rooms? Mostly domestic Thai tourists. Sure, we still get your Thais 'in the family pickup' coming to the beach for the day--and, happy to have them--but they are not the ones keeping the hotels open. Naklua has always been a BKK crowd favorite. Makes sense when you drive down the 7, then Nua and off to Naklua. Pattaya has always been a bit segregated: Chinese - South Jomthien, Russians - North Jomthien, Germans - Lower Naklua, French - Around tukcom, Norwegians - South of Pratumnak, etc.Not sure where the Brits hang in, Darkside? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 5 hours ago, tomauasia said: Give it a rest. I speak to Thais in Pattaya it's a starving ghost town. Go ask the business owners. How they feel about Thai tourism lol. Cheap Charlie's. Do they send money to Thai gf family and spend money in bars. They are there subsidized. Cheap Charlie's. Pattaya wants western tourists back and Paryut and the five clan gone. Next Of course Pattaya is hurting--nobody said it isn't. I was responding to your comment that only Thai families in pickups go to the beach. North Pattaya Beach, where I am, is seeing numbers of Thais coming to Pattaya on weekends, especially holiday weekends. With no international travel, they are traveling domestically. They are coming in enough numbers to keep most of the large hotels in my area open, and some of the small ones, helping to employ some of the many workers who have been laid off. But, yes, there are many closed businesses everywhere. I saw the same thing when my partner and I visited Chiang Mai a month ago. The hotel we stayed at was one of the larger, nicer ones and it was fully booked on the weekend. We talked to some of the guests and they were from Bangkok, there for the weekend. Last week we visited the River Kwai area and it was gratifying to see that the hotel we stayed at was also almost full--mostly Thais with a few farang. Domestic tourism is not enough by any means for all three areas that depend on tourists but it is helping some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomauasia Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 18 hours ago, newnative said: Of course Pattaya is hurting--nobody said it isn't. I was responding to your comment that only Thai families in pickups go to the beach. North Pattaya Beach, where I am, is seeing numbers of Thais coming to Pattaya on weekends, especially holiday weekends. With no international travel, they are traveling domestically. They are coming in enough numbers to keep most of the large hotels in my area open, and some of the small ones, helping to employ some of the many workers who have been laid off. But, yes, there are many closed businesses everywhere. I saw the same thing when my partner and I visited Chiang Mai a month ago. The hotel we stayed at was one of the larger, nicer ones and it was fully booked on the weekend. We talked to some of the guests and they were from Bangkok, there for the weekend. Last week we visited the River Kwai area and it was gratifying to see that the hotel we stayed at was also almost full--mostly Thais with a few farang. Domestic tourism is not enough by any means for all three areas that depend on tourists but it is helping some. Nobody cares about the useless Thai tourists. Wake up Cheap Charlie's and they are not even close to what Pattaya was. Prayut must stop his China ass licking program or we prefer he resigns and takes all the convicts with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/27/2020 at 11:02 AM, bkk6060 said: Most British say it incorrectly. Just returning the favour..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/28/2020 at 12:39 PM, tomauasia said: Nobody cares about the useless Thai tourists. Wake up Cheap Charlie's and they are not even close to what Pattaya was. There's big money in som tum and sangsom. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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