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If you want to stay in a third world country, you can not expect the same safenes as in the western world. That you had to understand and live with, if you want your life here.

 

You shall not be a doormat, but you had to show good behaviour and respect to the local culture.

 

I had one experience with the police, in an traffic accident. I must brake hard for a young thai on a little motorbike, who was playing on the bike and then was falling just in the front of my car, I blocked the brakes and get 4 sleeping thai cars up in my ash. All the thai drivers think I was driving wrong, I did not go in to any discussions, I said to them lets wait the police and the insurance. The insurance guy was fair, but the police would not talk anything, it was clear that they waited that the farrang should accept to pay what the assurance would not pay. Then I suggest to go to the policestation and write a report for court use, then we moved to the policestation and the police was not happy to begin to write, but they can not denie it even you are a farrang, after two-three hours talk the police began to write the report, and began to talk about who was guilty in the accident. After three hours they began to talk that the farrang was not guilty in the accident, it was clear they where not happy about this and they would have being much more happy if I had taken the blame for the accident without writing any thing.

 

My point is: You can not expect fairness from the police as a farrang. Do not get upset but be patient and persistent in talks with the police. Have some minimum knowledge about how law, court and police works in the country you live in. Have control over what you are doing and avoid stupid situations with Thais, some times better to look the other way or give the other cheek.

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the easiest way to avoid physical confrontations is to stay home and spend all your time on internet forums.    also  limit interactions with humans to activities such as posting on Facebook , texting

Can't say I have had any serious problems in Thailand. I drive defensively, keep 80% of my assets in Australia, don't own anything apart from an elderly car and scooter, both bought secondhand. Cash I

I noticed pretty quickly that the expats who get into those sorts of situations always have entirely reasonable explanations for why they happened, and I have no reason to doubt their sincerity ... ex

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OP, the 1 year visa gives you no more rights than a tourists entering Thailand for their first time on a 30 day visa exemption stamp.

 

You could be married here, have 2 kids, a business that employs Thai staff, a house, a car etc, but you have no more rights than a tourists entering for their first time on a 30 day exemption stamp.  What does that tell you about the stability a 1 year visa offers here?

 

Indeed, this matter was raised some time ago in a different thread, and after some debate, it was agreed that the only thing a 1 year visa gives you over a 30 day visa exemption stamp was you could get a 5 year driving license over a 1 year license.  Such luxury, for all the hoops for a 1 year license.  

 

Keep your assets and cash in your home country and transfer to Thailand monthly living expenses.  Also, explore the region and have a Plan B as an alternative to Thailand.  You very well may need it in the future.  

 

You will only be a doormat if you allow yourself to be.

 

I make Thailand work for me, not the other way around.     

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I spent many decades visiting and living in LOS. However I always understood that I was running a risk that something would go wrong and I could end up in the slammer or worse. It was a risk I understood and accepted.

 

Many times I did something and realised later that it could have gone very wrong for me.

 

However, life's a risk wherever we are, and LOS was a lot more fun than anywhere else I'd been, so worth it.

 

If I have to regret anything about living in LOS, it's only that I passed up on a few chances with really cute girls, and married the wrong one.

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9 hours ago, Leaver said:

You could be married here, have 2 kids, a business that employs Thai staff, a house, a car etc, but you have no more rights than a tourists entering for their first time on a 30 day exemption stamp.  What does that tell you about the stability a 1 year visa offers here?

and yet........................

So many posters that think because they spend a few thousand in LOS that it makes them somehow special and Thailand should be about THEM.

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I wonder why the poster thinks he will become a doormat. 

 

If you regularly get sparked out in your home country and treated like a door mat. Expect much worse here.

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37 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

If I have to regret anything about living in LOS, it's only that I passed up on a few chances with really cute girls, and married the wrong one.

I have no cause to regret the relationship I am currently in with my Thai GF of 7 years.

OTOH, I have a lot of reasons with dollar signs on them, and more, to regret my two long-term relationships in Australia.

It is what it is, swings and roundabouts.

Cute works with me, also honesty. Although BMT says it's an oxymoron.

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Just now, Lacessit said:

I have no cause to regret the relationship I am currently in with my Thai GF of 7 years.

OTOH, I have a lot of reasons with dollar signs on them, and more, to regret my two long-term relationships in Australia.

It is what it is, swings and roundabouts.

Cute works with me, also honesty. Although BMT says it's an oxymoron.

I don't know if my Thai ex wife lied to me about everything, but it was certainly a lot.

She was quite cute, when she was nice, though those periods became less as time went by.

 

BTW, my regrets with certain girls wasn't with an eye to the long term, if you know what I mean, as I was not interested in getting married to a Thai when I had to work elsewhere.

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3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't know if my Thai ex wife lied to me about everything, but it was certainly a lot.

She was quite cute, when she was nice, though those periods became less as time went by.

 

BTW, my regrets with certain girls wasn't with an eye to the long term, if you know what I mean, as I was not interested in getting married to a Thai when I had to work elsewhere.

I came to Thailand thinking only in terms of very short-term relationships, my GF convinced me otherwise.

Perhaps I am the personality type that prefers permanency. Others might say I'm a glutton for punishment.

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If you decide to live long term in any country where you don't qualify for citizenship, you will always be at some risk of being ejected if you become involved in a serious police or civil situation or if Immigration rules change drastically.

 If you cannot abide even the small likelihood that such an event may happen, you really should stay safely in home country and never try to live permanently in any country on a temporary visa.  Thailand makes it easier to stay long term than almost any other relatively attractive and civilized country. That's why we flock here. Virtually all other similar countries will not allow de-facto residence on tourist visas. Look at the rules in your own country. Most problems here can be solved with the ubiquitous backhander. Cheap at half the price.

 

I consider Thailand to be one of the safest countries I've spent time in, and don't feel unsafe virtually anywhere. Of course, I never get on a motorbike. If you are scared of what may happen with your personal safety, don't risk it, stay at home.

If you are careless or naïve with your money just bring enough to get by here and leave the rest at home for your family to enjoy when you kick the bucket.

If you consider yourself to be a doormat, welcome to the male gender. You'll be treated much the same anywhere.

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On 10/25/2020 at 4:30 AM, meechai said:

 

If or when Somchia decides to pull the trigger you will become what you always were ......a coconut girl in a high fashion world 😉

 

<deleted> does that even mean?

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22 hours ago, BritManToo said:

They tend not to deport married foreigners.

But single guys are fair game.

 

I currently have a Thai wife, married by village ceremony.  Might that carry any clout?   Or do you need the official amphur marriage?

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On 10/25/2020 at 2:55 AM, mstevens said:

 

 

My worry was always what would happen if I unwittingly got in The problem I had is that I never felt entirely secure when I was living there. There was always that small voice in the back of my head telling me that if I had bad luck and someone decided they didn't like me then I could be shown the door. I just can't live that way. I know some people dismiss the idea but I prefer to be a realist. It is one of the main reasons I prefer to live in my own country and return to Thailand for a holiday every so often.

If you feel so, it is either one out of three or maybe all three. 

 

1. You are among wrong people And wrong places

2. You can not adopt and behave

3. You are getting paranoid. 

 

If my missus trow me out, It have to be I made a mistake choosing her, or I did not behave and been a good boy. 

 

The most important is, never to invest more than you can leave, as nr one rule. It not so complicated to have a good life here, but it takes some common sense and pink glasses to survive in a dysfunctional country like Thailand. However the best dictatorship in the world as far I know. 

 

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YES!!!  You are a doormat.  This will never be your country, and anyone can record you and destroy all good deeds you have ever done!!!  You will be the worst farang ever, and you will be soo bitter about a country that really hates you!!!  What a way to live.  

 

get married, buy a house, and you can be kicked out immediately and lose it all.  and nobody will care, except you.

 

oh, it can happen...and these people never post on TV...they are back home broke and mad

 

how to avoid this?????

 

do what i do....  bring only 10 million to LOS, keep another 60 million baht back home, and then you have money to lose....

 

if poor in a country not your own....OMG....OMG........

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