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people need to stand up and say no.

People need to tell covid deniers to go away.

I don't the think "new normal" is going to last much longer in Europe, unrest developing in Poland, Italy, Germany and the UK. Judging by the Thai protests things will be changing too.

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2 minutes ago, Bluedan said:

no one forced them but surely the responsibility in part lies with government who have allowed food companies to form monopolies hide their unhealthy processed food behind non existent or unreadable labels and brainwash children with non stop advertising. This is the real pandemic. Kills millions every year quite apart from making them susceptible to COVID. If governments care so much about saving lives how about act on this and ban advertising of unhealthy killer foods. That might save a few hospital beds and a lot more lives than lockdowns ever will.

Right now the governments should promote healthy food with vitamin D....but they don;t....They do ban cigarette advertisings though.

 

But also fast food does NOT make people fat...it all depends on how much energy the person burns and eat...And people are still free to eat what they want. We all know that it's not healthy to get overweighted but some just don't care.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Bluedan said:

no one forced them but surely the responsibility in part lies with government who have allowed food companies to form monopolies hide their unhealthy processed food behind non existent or unreadable labels and brainwash children with non stop advertising. This is the real pandemic. Kills millions every year quite apart from making them susceptible to COVID. If governments care so much about saving lives how about act on this and ban advertising of unhealthy killer foods. That might save a few hospital beds and a lot more lives than lockdowns ever will.

You're right, but politicians depend on big donations from the likes of big pharma, junk food and other entities that promote a non healthy lifestyle.  It's not in any politicians best interest to go after their best campaign donors.  

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2 minutes ago, fruitman said:

Right now the governments should promote healthy food with vitamin D....but they don;t....They do ban cigarette advertisings though.

 

But also fast food does NOT make people fat...it all depends on how much energy the person burns and eat...And people are still free to eat what they want. We all know that it's not healthy to get overweighted but some just don't care.

 

 

Yes eating healthy and taking the proper medication to fend of illnesses is fantastic and should be promoted, but you do contradict yourself in your posts, as I am still seeing them.

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35 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

BREAKING: Masks cause COVID-19

 

The reason CDC did not recommend masks in the beginning for the general public was because the vast majority of the general public was not at risk. Hospital workers were.

 

Masks are a two edged sword. 

 

They do provide an extra barrier if worn correctly and if using correct masks, but there is no peer reviewed study yet published which shows how effective they are. 

 

At worst masks can help spread covid-19 if worn incorrectly, by spreading it from mask to surfaces which other touch. And to be honest, most people don't use masks in the correct way. 

I worked in the medical industry for many years and is trained how to use protective gear and I still find myself touching and adjusting that darn mask constantly in public transport. 

 

So they are not the best solution. 

 

Even worse is that burning billions and billions of masks each and every day is a disaster waiting to happen. 

 

We're talking about plastic, spandex and aluminium not beeing recycled and by beeing burned, we end up with micro plast in the air which is unsure how we react to in the long run. We end up with particles that is known to cause cancer, and in general it's a huge waste of materials that is not recycled. Worldwide it's insane how much raw materials that is beeing used to cover the daily need for masks. 

 

We need a better solution if the politicians keep on demanding the use of masks. 

 

Would reusable visirs do the trick? 

It's easier to wear, easier to reuse and clean, and easier to recycle. 

 

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2 minutes ago, fruitman said:

Right now the governments should promote healthy food with vitamin D....but they don;t....They do ban cigarette advertisings though.

 

But also fast food does NOT make people fat...it all depends on how much energy the person burns and eat...And people are still free to eat what they want. We all know that it's not healthy to get overweighted but some just don't care.

 

 

yes cigarette advertising has long been banned but its seems that sugar is just as big a killer and its targeting children the addiction starts almost from birth. Just spend 15 minutes in 7/11 and look with horror as you see what the kids are eating 

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2 minutes ago, fruitman said:

Right now the governments should promote healthy food with vitamin D.

If you have a normal diet and are exposed to normal amount of sunlight, you don't need vitamin D supplements. Having more than the normal amount of vitamin D in your body does not protect you from Covid.

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On 10/26/2020 at 1:34 PM, tribalfusion001 said:

Correct, lots of differing opinions at present, who is right and who is wrong? Unemployment is growing, businesses going bust, travel restrictions and growing resentment of those in charge. Thailand has it's own problems and if there was tourism ongoing, those problems would not have surfaced like at present.

Sorry but why keep on saying ( not just you ) that if tourism was allowed everything would be peachy? Thailand might allow, but restrictions imposed on citizens of other countries mean it's just not going to happen, IMO. I can't see any NZ people going to LOS as long as they have to enter quarantine for 2 weeks at their own expense on return.

Then there is the probably more expensive flights and insurance as well.

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14 minutes ago, fruitman said:

Right now the governments should promote healthy food with vitamin D....but they don;t....They do ban cigarette advertisings though.

 

But also fast food does NOT make people fat...it all depends on how much energy the person burns and eat...And people are still free to eat what they want. We all know that it's not healthy to get overweighted but some just don't care.

 

 

I feel sad when I see parents with children buying takeaway food as their normal diet. The kids are already fat and IMO might suffer ill health eg diabetes and coronary disease as a result.

It's not like when I was a child and we were left to play with friends outside all day. We burned up all the excess calories.

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59 minutes ago, Bluedan said:

I think the best way is to listen to all opinions. I watch CNN Aljazeera and Fox as well as ABC Australia. On youtube I search and watch videos on both sides. I google and read articles and scientific papers advocating opposite views. And then I make up my mind. I am firmly of the view that there is a credible and dissenting scientific and economic views opposing the policy of lockdown and that this has to a large extent been censored or ignored my MSM.

Looking right back at yah, totally agree with your hypothesis. 

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43 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

One of the important questions to be asked in the analysis of the epidemic when it is over will be to governments, in my opinion.

"Why was information not in accordance with the desired political agenda not considered"?

 

There has been much information contrary to the lockdown mode available, much of it discussed on here, and the obvious example of Sweden, all of which was, IMO, attacked and disregarded by those in charge.

 

I can only hope truth will out prior to the next election in NZ.

Its in the interests of some that it never be over...a constant state of fear and emergency bans on large gatherings face masks etc. 

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12 minutes ago, Bluedan said:

Its in the interests of some that it never be over...a constant state of fear and emergency bans on large gatherings face masks etc. 

You truly believe this statement of yours?  If you do then you have been brainwashed by the MSM and the conspiracy folks.  Time to think outside of the box.

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