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people need to stand up and say no.

People need to tell covid deniers to go away.

I don't the think "new normal" is going to last much longer in Europe, unrest developing in Poland, Italy, Germany and the UK. Judging by the Thai protests things will be changing too.

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Here are a couple of data points I recently came across.  Can anyone explain?  These two organizations have a profound effect on the lives of millions.  Something is obviously amiss here. 

 

1.  World Health Organization-Influenza Laboratory Surveillance Information, Oct. 25, 2020. Graph entitled "Global Circulation of Influenza Viruses".   Graph indicates that as of April 2020 the flu completely disappeared worldwide, unlike ever before.  

 

2.  Center for Disease Control CDC-US, Sept 2020.  Projected US Deaths-All Causes are 2,838,000 for 2020, less than that of 2018 and 2019.  

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4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

You just know Anutin will get a law passed that all foreigners have a COVID vaccination in order to get a VISA extension.

Good thing is the local quack will give you the cert for 150b.

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3 hours ago, peter zwart said:

And my daughter and her husband are both surgeon. From a large group of surgeons a letter was send to the government that lock downs were logic but absolutely not helpful. Expending facilities is something the focus have to be on. As i mentioned before, lock down wont help. It will just extend the problem. And its said to see that some people always have to get personal when they dont agree with some one. 

Stick to the topic.

 
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Lockdowns do more bad then good , 100% agree . It is needed because people just don't have common sense . They still come together , don't wear masks and think it just doesn't happen to them or don't care about it . Normally , people should listen , keep their distance from others , keep their mask on , and this way near everything can stay open . The few cases there are can be isolated , and contact tracing will take care of the few others they did come in contact with so that they can be tested also .

In Asia they have done things differently , and they appear to be working . China sends big cities in hard lockdown when there are only a few cases and test everybody . Korea and Japan have very extensive contact tracing with phone app . Thailand and many others (Australia/NZ) closed their borders and are keeping control over everything .

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4 hours ago, griffon2011 said:

Here are a couple of data points I recently came across.  Can anyone explain?  These two organizations have a profound effect on the lives of millions.  Something is obviously amiss here. 

 

1.  World Health Organization-Influenza Laboratory Surveillance Information, Oct. 25, 2020. Graph entitled "Global Circulation of Influenza Viruses".   Graph indicates that as of April 2020 the flu completely disappeared worldwide, unlike ever before.  

 

2.  Center for Disease Control CDC-US, Sept 2020.  Projected US Deaths-All Causes are 2,838,000 for 2020, less than that of 2018 and 2019.  

1Influenza season ranges in certain time of the year , finishing in april .

2 I've came across the CDC-US2020 data before ... and like you said in the title , it is a projected death number , not the real number and it does state that on the graph also . They got projected death numbers for the next couple of years also. 1st numbers of CDC -US including the covid situation came in already with 300k extra deaths , above the calculated range for the same time of year . The real number for the full year you have to wait but unless the death count is less then normal during these few months ( possible because many elderly died ) , then the total number for 2020 will be higher then your projected 2.838 million .

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

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12 hours ago, rabas said:

Brilliant. I found data to support your second wave theory. There are in fact 3 phases.

 

1. All ages are hit, old people die in larger numbers.

2. Young people cases spike in July. Cabin fever, summer time.

3.  The young eventually spread it to everyone else again.

 

So, deaths and hospitalizations are now rising after a long delay from the beginning of the second wave started by thy young. These graphs are for Minnesota, other graphs form the UK and EU are similar.  THANKS KIDS!

 

PHASE 2
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PHASE 3

New Minnesota COVID-19 cases by age, adjusted for population

 

Those June spikes among the 20-29 year olds seem to line up perfectly with the “mostly peaceful” riots in Minneapolis-St. Paul
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_unrest_in_Minneapolis–Saint_Paul

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On 10/26/2020 at 5:04 PM, polpott said:

 

You end up with one of these.

 

                                                               Black and white of a sheep - 9 free HQ online Puzzle Games on  Newcastlebeach 2020!

Hahaha!

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19 hours ago, sezze said:

Euhm , no they are FULL , meaning FULL . The emergency hospital is a party tent , something they normally use at music festivals . H1N1 wasn't nearly as bad as this .

The earth isn't flat , vaccines do work , 5G does nothing more then 4G , people did go to the moon , and Covid is real .

Britain isn't at war. Why don't they get the army medical corps to set up field hospitals? It is what they do, after all.

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On 10/26/2020 at 11:51 AM, MikeN said:

@rupert the bear have you never heard of paragraphs and punctuation ? Your rant would be a lot easier to read ! But you would, IMHO, still be wrong. No vaccine in a few weeks, that’s for sure.

theres a vaccine available in china.sinovac,60 bucks a shot,it will be sent here and other pro china places,its safe,astra/ox vaccine will be sent to limited london hospitals in the following  weeks,so your wrong about that.its not a rant and most people have no problem reading it.humble you most certainly are not.arrogant and very poorly informed ,ill leave it at that,al jazeera may help you get info re vaccine news, guardian too

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10 hours ago, elephant45 said:

I thought this was a forum where people with different ideas could throw the out there and discuss them? Correct me if I am wrong.

As long as your different ideas fit in the narrative you should be safe.

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