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Why am I not surprised that you are the first to react, and with exactly the response I have come to expect from a blindfolded Brexit follower? You don’t care, is what you keep repeating. Others do, a

More Remainer truckers moaning. We don't care because we voted to Leave, not keep the cosy status quo with the fright industry. They had better get all their ducks in a row, rather than constantly moa

Or is Remainer Reuters to blame?    As a European, I love reading all those Brexit failures. It keeps giving and giving. Brexiteers have so much egg on their face by now, they look like a bukka

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7 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

I used the example of the UK and Switzerland but referendums occur far less frequently in the UK. I think only 6 years is too soon for a vote on the same question, yes.

 

What I personally agree with does not matter. I am sure that any government would not ask for my individual blessing for any referendum. 

Same question but completely different circumstances. 

Following your logic we should not be having general elections every 5 years. Or indeed even sooner than that when it suits the Conservative party. 

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3 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Same question but completely different circumstances. 

Following your logic we should not be having general elections every 5 years. Or indeed even sooner than that when it suits the Conservative party. 

Labour and the SNP triggered the last one did they not?

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9 hours ago, RayC said:

Err, who? If you mean Swinson, then you've got the wrong party🤔😂

In which case please accept this correction:🥉 (😊)

 

 

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10 hours ago, RayC said:

 Were the electorate as a whole (Remainers and Leavers) more informed than MPs when it came to the pros and cons of Brexit? If they were, they shouldn't have been. After all, we elect politicans to make informed decisions on our behalf. 

 

Although we probably disagree about who is responsible, I assume that we agree that the referendum result has caused an enormous divide in UK society? I would contend that if the decision to leave had been made by government, it would not have opened such a schism, although I accept that this is pure conjecture.

 

I think that it's not hard to see that the ratio of "informed" (elected) politicians to those that are ill-informed has been declining for years, although a being "well informed" MP does not necessarily guarantee that an MP will serve the best interests of his voters, anyway. I think MPs are elected if they are seen as the candidates most likely to vote for the interests of individual voters, whether these interests, or policies, are local or national. 

 

I can agree that the referendum result has highlighted a division but I think that had been there for years. I would say that If the government had just decided to leave (with no referendum) then the kickback from remain would have been harder than it has been but that there would have been more justification for it. 

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4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Same question but completely different circumstances. 

Following your logic we should not be having general elections every 5 years. Or indeed even sooner than that when it suits the Conservative party. 

 

If you want to highlight completely different circumstances you should start with general elections and referendums. 

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More 'getting on with it' from HMG:

Breadth of UK food, drink and innovation set to shine at the 2020 China International Import Expo

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The UK will showcase the best of British at the third China International Import Expo (CIIE), following a record-breaking year of £100 billion in trade between the two nations.

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Finance Ministers Sunak and Sitharaman hold landmark dialogue

 

(Note: I'm unable to shrink the font on this device or inc a quote from the 2nd link)

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5 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

So you get asked the same question every time you vote in a general election but you think we should not be asking the same question in a referendum after 6 years when the circumstances have completely changed.

Yeah ok. I suppose inconsistency is a Brexiteer constant. 

 

Referendums suit single issues. General elections do not. That's why the word 'general' is included. 

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