NoshowJones Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Grumpy John said: Thaksin is still revered up here out in the sticks. If he was to return there would but a white horse with a golden saddle and the road would be covered with orchids. Prayuth....no such luck! They are both bad people to the retirees and farangs on marriage extensions, I think we all know about the unelected "PM". but Thaksin was responsible for the ridiculous 90 day reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Weird timing, I have to say; still fighting the last war, which was about knocking out leaders, rather than the current war, which is about hearts and minds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 This is a bad move it will not stop the rallies quiet the opposite. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted October 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, SomchaiCNX said: Yes but Mr Taksin was Clean, right? He just forgot about 600 million and he had the luck he could appoint the last judge just before they reached a verdict ???? He is the root course of all this political instability for the lats 20 + years. What a load of cobblers. The root cause can be traced back to 1932 to the first military coup. Here is a clue for you. https://www.thaienquirer.com/13406/grading-thailands-13-successful-coups/ Thailand has had 13 successful coups (and many more coup attempts) since the start of the 20th century. Thaksin is the ONLY politician to have successfuly completed the 4 year term and then went on to win another election. Thaksin may have been a thief but EVERY coup is an act of treason and the leaders of those coups immediately gave themselves an amnesty and each time they stole the whole country. The army has the 2nd or 3rd largest budget in Thailand and it has some 1,700 generals on its books. There are more generals than tanks and armoured cars put together. The Army has not been involved in a real war (other than border disputes) for decades. The Army claims to NEED about 100,000 conscripts per year which is more that the UK Army who are professionals at the job. I am not allowed to give a reference for this bit as it was published in the "other" E L paper. "Because we have not received a lot of funds lately to buy new weapons and other military hardware, about 70% to 80% of existing ones are old and need to be replaced," Gen Prayut said. "Doing so would cut the high costs of maintenance." "Our mission is to protect the country's sovereignty along the borders, and we have to be prepared for any new skirmishes or fights, no matter if they will happen or not," he added. Edited October 27, 2020 by billd766 Bad spelling 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nong38 Posted October 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, billd766 said: What a load of cobblers. The root cause can be traced back to 1932 to the first military coup. Here is a clue for you. https://www.thaienquirer.com/13406/grading-thailands-13-successful-coups/ Thailand has had 13 successful coups (and many more coup attempts) since the start of the 20th century. Thaksin is the ONLY politician to have successfuly completed the 4 year term and then went on to win another election. Thaksin may have been a thief but EVERY coup is an act of treason and the leaders of those coups immediately gave themselves an amnesty and each time they stole the whole country. The army has the 2nd or 3rd largest budget in Thailand and it has some 1,700 generals on its books. There are more generals than tanks and armoured cars put together. The Army has not been involved in a real war (other than border disputes) for decades. The Army claims to NEED about 100,000 conscripts per year which is more that the UK Army who are professionals at the job. I am not allowed to give a reference for this bit as it was published in the "other" E L paper. "Because we have not received a lot of funds lately to buy new weapons and other military hardware, about 70% to 80% of existing ones are old and need to be replaced," Gen Prayut said. "Doing so would cut the high costs of maintenance." "Our mission is to protect the country's sovereignty along the borders, and we have to be prepared for any new skirmishes or fights, no matter if they will happen or not," he added. Who are likely to be a threat to Thailand from the Asean Community? I am struggling with this one, the Army seems only to exist to have coups, seems like the only wins they have are over their own un-armed people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted October 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Burma Bill said: A cunning scheme by Prayut and his cronies?? Increase the protests and then a COUP! It's definitely got that smell about it.Is that what Prayuth meant when he said Thai style democracy? Edited October 27, 2020 by FarFlungFalang 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grumpy John Posted October 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, possum1931 said: They are both bad people to the retirees and farangs on marriage extensions, I think we all know about the unelected "PM". but Thaksin was responsible for the ridiculous 90 day reporting. I was just trying to explain how the Thai's around here feel. My point of view may differ from that of my wife or the neighbours but it's not something I discuss these days. Several years ago I did enter a discussion and it became apparent some discussions are best not had for my own peace and tranquility! Edited October 27, 2020 by Grumpy John smelling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post statman78 Posted October 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, SomchaiCNX said: Yes but Mr Taksin was Clean, right? He just forgot about 600 million and he had the luck he could appoint the last judge just before they reached a verdict ???? He is the root course of all this political instability for the lats 20 + years. This has been going on long before Taksin. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/thailand-coup-a-brief-history-of-past-military-coups-0 Looking at the history, Thailand has a coup every 7 years on average. The last one was in 2014. We are due for another . Edited October 27, 2020 by statman78 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, nong38 said: Who are likely to be a threat to Thailand from the Asean Community? I am struggling with this one, the Army seems only to exist to have coups, seems like the only wins they have are over their own un-armed people. Laos, after CCP has finished the debt trap. Echoes from Vietnam War, the commies are at it again. https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/analysts-rising-debt-burden-could-make-laos-more-reliant-china Quote Laos is not likely to make all its debt payments this year, much of them owed to China, which has become the world’s biggest lender, more so than the World Bank or any other global institution, according to analysts. Edited October 27, 2020 by DrTuner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckenfell Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 12 hours ago, webfact said: EC to file criminal charges against Thanathorn and 15 executives over loans to Future Forward Party By THE NATION Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit The Election Commission (EC) on Monday decided to file criminal charges against former Future Forward Party (FFP) leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit for giving loans of Bt191 million to his party in January and April 2019, and against 15 party executives for taking the loan. Article 72 of the Political Party Act BE 2560 prohibits political parties from receiving donations of money or assets from any sources which it knows are unlawful or have reasonable doubt of it being unlawful. It also prohibits the receiving of donations in excess of Bt10 million per year from an individual. Article 92(3) of the same act allows the Constitutional Court to consider dissolving any political party that violates Article 72. In December 2019, the EC had petitioned the Constitutional Court to dissolve Future Forward Party. The court subsequently ordered the party’s dissolution on February 21, as well as banned its leader and 15 party executives from political activities for 10 years. This prompted Thanathorn to step down and start his new “Progressive Movement”, while Future Forward MPs led by Pita Limjaroenrat established the Move Forward Party on March 8, vowing to continue the work of Future Forward. The EC on Monday said that Thanathorn and 15 FFP executives had also violated Article 66 of the Political Party Act, which prohibits an individual from donating more than Bt10 million per year to a political party. The donor violating this article is punishable with a maximum five years' imprisonment or Bt100,000 fine, or both, and will be barred from voting for five years, while the receiver of the donation is punishable with a maximum three years' imprisonment or Bt1 million fine. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30396823 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-10-27 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckenfell Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Is there anything that they will not do to retain their dictatorship of the country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckenfell Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 12 hours ago, webfact said: EC to file criminal charges against Thanathorn and 15 executives over loans to Future Forward Party By THE NATION Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit The Election Commission (EC) on Monday decided to file criminal charges against former Future Forward Party (FFP) leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit for giving loans of Bt191 million to his party in January and April 2019, and against 15 party executives for taking the loan. Article 72 of the Political Party Act BE 2560 prohibits political parties from receiving donations of money or assets from any sources which it knows are unlawful or have reasonable doubt of it being unlawful. It also prohibits the receiving of donations in excess of Bt10 million per year from an individual. Article 92(3) of the same act allows the Constitutional Court to consider dissolving any political party that violates Article 72. In December 2019, the EC had petitioned the Constitutional Court to dissolve Future Forward Party. The court subsequently ordered the party’s dissolution on February 21, as well as banned its leader and 15 party executives from political activities for 10 years. This prompted Thanathorn to step down and start his new “Progressive Movement”, while Future Forward MPs led by Pita Limjaroenrat established the Move Forward Party on March 8, vowing to continue the work of Future Forward. The EC on Monday said that Thanathorn and 15 FFP executives had also violated Article 66 of the Political Party Act, which prohibits an individual from donating more than Bt10 million per year to a political party. The donor violating this article is punishable with a maximum five years' imprisonment or Bt100,000 fine, or both, and will be barred from voting for five years, while the receiver of the donation is punishable with a maximum three years' imprisonment or Bt1 million fine. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30396823 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-10-27 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates It has been said before. A loan is NOT a donation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckenfell Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 9 hours ago, madmitch said: I think most of the old folk are royalists and have no problem with a Government that maintains the status quo. If they get involved thet'll mostly be wearing yellow shirts. A business person that i know in Suratthani tells me that Khun Prayuth is doing an excellent job running the country. However we all know that Surat is the hotbed of the Yellowshirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckenfell Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 8 hours ago, Flying Saucage said: Currently the country is in a deadlock with the daily demonstrations and the stubbern government not moving anywhere. And - most importantly - this government will do everything to protect the political systems as it is. The generals MUST do this in their very personal interest, to protect their wealth and safety. Think about this: Any compromise which brings the country closer to democracy and a rule of law is a big no-no for them, given how criminal and corrupt they are. It simply is much too dangerous for them to risk that one day a fair court in a Thai democracy prosecutes them for all their crimes. Therefore, to avoid any reform towards democracy and rule of law and to get rid of the deadlock, they need an escalation now. They need a decisive battle. That might be a reason why they want an escalation now by prosecuting Thanathorn, to ingnite violence and real riots, and to have an excuse for a tough crackdown then. Yellow thugs will be ordered to support this well engineered agenda of escalation. As I pointed out before already, after such a provoced crackdown, I predict that the army will give the power to some civil friends (I guess Anutin will appointed as the next PM), in order to appease the people and the international community, and to create a "government of national unity", whose duty only will be to protect the system for another decade, till the circle will start again. Needs a revolt within the army with the young 'cannon fodder' downing arms. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Saucage Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Huckenfell said: A business person that i know in Suratthani tells me that Khun Prayuth is doing an excellent job running the country. However we all know that Surat is the hotbed of the Yellowshirts. Of course there are some profiteers of Prayuts corrupt nepotism, especially in the elite. The majority of the Thai people are losing and suffer from what this man does, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daejung Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 No "Criminal charges" for the coup d'état ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mark131v Posted October 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Huckenfell said: Is there anything that they will not do to retain their dictatorship of the country Simple answer, no - there is absolutely nothing they will not do, their actions have proven this time after time They are parasites, a cancer if you like and they need to be removed they will never leave otherwise so this calls for hard choices and even harder decisions Removing cancer is bloody and dangerous, removing these corrupt lying hypocrites will be the same only question is are the people prepared for the coming discomfort I really, really hope so because I reckon if action is not taken soon the patient will be terminal or so weakened it will take years to recover, hope they make the right choice... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just what Prayuth wants , what can ya say, what comes around goes around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 13 hours ago, Huckenfell said: Is there anything that they will not do to retain their dictatorship of the country I haven't seen anything so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/27/2020 at 6:14 AM, colinneil said: Keep it up you bunch of clowns, all you are doing is helping the protests grow. It appears that the geriatrics are determined to make matters worse by going after Thanathorn, what a bunch of short sighted idiots. Idiots is far too kind...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/27/2020 at 8:15 AM, madmitch said: It's almost as though they want the protests to escalate. unbelievable timing. They don't have the brains to see past their next meal, morning and afternoon tea constitutes a meal in Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/27/2020 at 9:39 AM, SomchaiCNX said: Yes but Mr Taksin was Clean, right? He just forgot about 600 million and he had the luck he could appoint the last judge just before they reached a verdict ???? He is the root course of all this political instability for the lats 20 + years. Think you need to check a few facts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) On 10/27/2020 at 12:08 PM, Burma Bill said: A cunning scheme by Prayut and his cronies?? Increase the protests and then a COUP! Any coup won't have napolean in it, or do you think he will coup the coup? Edited October 28, 2020 by Artisi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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