Pattaya – fighting to survive its Covid crisis

[thaibeachlovers 32,996]

20 hours ago, webfact said:

The plight for these sex workers, post Covid, is bleak. As their work wasn’t officially recognised they weren’t able to access any of the government’s unemployment stimulus payments and weren’t protected under any of the country’s labour laws.

Is the author claiming that "bar worker" is not a recognised occupation in LOS? Loads of bar workers in LOS are not prostitutes.

 

20 hours ago, webfact said:

Some of the bars have also pivoted to an online model, with mixed results, where the bar girls, and bar boys, are able to ‘chat’ to online customers, viewers can buy them drinks and business continues as usual.

Given I never "chatted" to a BG I wonder what they find to chat about on line? Hardly going to be about world affairs, though they could chat about food, which seems to be a favorite topic of conversation for Thai girls.

 

Do people really give Thai barkeeps their credit card details so the girls can have lady drinks?

business continues as usual.

Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

 

I might miss Pattaya and the bar scene, but one can be certain I'm not NOT using a credit card to buy some BG I don't know drinks and looking at someone I can't touch, let alone take back to my room.

[thaibeachlovers 32,996]

50 minutes ago, Sean60 said:

Where is the Thai government to ease the pain for people. 

For years you have begged people to come and invest their money in Thailand. We have. Where on earth are you now? why you do not help us to survive these bad days? no relief packages? No nothing. !!!!

Bunch of incompetent people sitting at important positions doing nothing. 

Far as I know Thailand is not a socialist country. If one wants welfare one should live in a western socialist country.

[ginjag 7,368]

3 hours ago, mikebell said:

They've cut my State pension to £370 a MONTH after working 40 years; they've frozen it for the last 13 years; lots of pensioners are dieing daily so they're saving there; and they're still taxing me!

Same with me, but if we returned in a rubber boat in the dover area, they give you a bus ride to a 4 star hotel free inclusive of food and cash illegal immigrants  human rights  Ha Ha Ha,,,,,us pensioners have no human rights.  in fact we are saving the UK vast amount of money, no winter payments, no free transport, not using the NHS and doctors, etc,, BUT yet they  freeze our pension,, that should be illegal.

[bullseye66 36]

38 minutes ago, ginjag said:

Same with me, but if we returned in a rubber boat in the dover area, they give you a bus ride to a 4 star hotel free inclusive of food and cash illegal immigrants  human rights  Ha Ha Ha,,,,,us pensioners have no human rights.  in fact we are saving the UK vast amount of money, no winter payments, no free transport, not using the NHS and doctors, etc,, BUT yet they  freeze our pension,, that should be illegal.

Ah yes but you're expendable under Boris Johnson's regime. His business chums need cheap foreign labour to increase their already massive profits so of course they allow the migrants in. 

[Wongkitlo 958]

46 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Far as I know Thailand is not a socialist country. If one wants welfare one should live in a western socialist country.

So are you advocation open borders worldwide? Refugees can go anywhere.

[Wongkitlo 958]

51 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Is the author claiming that "bar worker" is not a recognised occupation in LOS? Loads of bar workers in LOS are not prostitutes.

 

Given I never "chatted" to a BG I wonder what they find to chat about on line? Hardly going to be about world affairs, though they could chat about food, which seems to be a favorite topic of conversation for Thai girls.

 

Do people really give Thai barkeeps their credit card details so the girls can have lady drinks?

business continues as usual.

Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

 

I might miss Pattaya and the bar scene, but one can be certain I'm not NOT using a credit card to buy some BG I don't know drinks and looking at someone I can't touch, let alone take back to my room.

The government gave several 5000 b payments at the start of the epidemic. True. Bar workers were not recognized and received nothing. It is a bit old fashioned talking credit cards. Haven't you heard of Pay Pal and other online payment systems?

[polpott 5,252]

54 minutes ago, ginjag said:

in fact we are saving the UK vast amount of money, no winter payments, no free transport, not using the NHS and doctors, etc,, BUT yet they  freeze our pension,, that should be illegal.

I have lived permanently in Thailand for several years and haven't visited the UK in 18 months.

 

I get repeat prescriptions every 8 weeks free (apart from postage), see my GP whenever I do return, annual pension rise, winter heating allowance AND Christmas bonus.

[RichardColeman 26,443]

1 hour ago, Chiang Mai Bill said:

And your solution to this . . . incompetence is . . .?

simple - open everything up, wear a mask, use handgel and protect the old, infirm and vulnerable, with no vaccine coming shortly life will get far worse if we dont

[Bangkok Barry 9,115]

3 hours ago, Stevemercer said:

We (myself, wife and three of her female friends) drove down to Pattaya for the long weekend. The main drag (along the beach) had plenty of people, especially at night. The beach was full of Thais eating and drinking. Walk a few blocks off the main street and it was very quiet. 

 

The main drag along Jomtein was full of cars and quite a few Thai people about.

 

I managed to convince the wife and her friends to go into a western bar. There were plenty of bar girls hanging around and a decent band playing Aussie songs. Very few customers. The girls started dancing once they'd downed a few. The bar girls were not intrusive, and some joined in the dancing and talking with my wife's Isan friends. I think we spent about 500 Baht (a couple of beers each and some tips).

 

Thais will increasingly visit Pattaya. But the massage shops and western-styled bars will continue to suffer. I wonder of the bars can come up with some novel approaches to try and attract Thai people to come in 'for the experience'. Most Thai tourists would be far too intimidated to enter a western-style bar. But they would probably enjoy it if they did.

 

It would have painted a more accurate picture if you had gone during a normal weekday. Every place that provides entertainment anywhere in the world is busy during a holiday weekend. But that is only a few days out of a year. Hardly representative.

[samtab 254]

If most cheaters that are restaurants owners would understand that becoming honest is a must, it could help Pattaya to survive...

 

 

[Bkktodd 234]

6 hours ago, mrwebb8825 said:

I completely agree. They should be writing about the positive affects of covid. Instead of 27,000-30,000 sex workers out of work they should write, "30,000 families, moms and children reunited" or "Ladyboy Gang Crime Down 98%" or "Bag Snatches and Gold Snatches Down 97%" or even "Tourist Complaints of Crime Down To An All-time Low". 

Most farangs in Thailand   will never admit they met their lady in a bar or thai friendly.   Just saying

[Bkktodd 234]

3 hours ago, Oldie said:

I feel sorry for these guys because they need something like this. 

Some are not so “oldie”  that forget what sex was about.  You live a short life; sleep along time. 

[Hoppyone 175]

10 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

When you actually think about that  - 50% closed - you realise the impact of this total nonsense. When the historians look back at this, they will condemn the governments of the world for the near destruction of all the world's economy, whilst at the same time actually 'growing' theirs and the world's populations ! If this madness does not end soon, the damage caused by these insane politicians and leaders will not be fixed within the next 30 years.

Already my uk owes £30,000 in debt for every person in the UK due to borrowing for this political mess - and it's going up. If you take out retired and those unable or can't work, then that's about £40,000 each - and it's going up. It will have to be repaid quick to avoid potential interest rate rises. So, the youth now will probably get a £2,000 a year rise in their tax for the next 20 years, or a £1,000 bill now for the rest of their working life after starting work ! Madness , total incompetent madness.

Yes end result will be worse than if a war had broken out

[Oldie 3,757]

19 minutes ago, Bkktodd said:

Some are not so “oldie”  that forget what sex was about.  You live a short life; sleep along time. 

Don't forget to put a condom over your phone if you have this kind of far distance sex with them. 

[P100 419]

11 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

When you actually think about that  - 50% closed - you realise the impact of this total nonsense. When the historians look back at this, they will condemn the governments of the world for the near destruction of all the world's economy, whilst at the same time actually 'growing' theirs and the world's populations ! If this madness does not end soon, the damage caused by these insane politicians and leaders will not be fixed within the next 30 years.

Already my uk owes £30,000 in debt for every person in the UK due to borrowing for this political mess - and it's going up. If you take out retired and those unable or can't work, then that's about £40,000 each - and it's going up. It will have to be repaid quick to avoid potential interest rate rises. So, the youth now will probably get a £2,000 a year rise in their tax for the next 20 years, or a £1,000 bill now for the rest of their working life after starting work ! Madness , total incompetent madness.

You are right. Just don't fight it. Acceot covid as the nature's tool tl fight overpopulation. I guess you like that ...