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On 10/28/2020 at 9:26 AM, Pattaya Spotter said:

The news media isn't called "fake news" for nothing...they work hard to earn it every day.

 

They aren't universally called 'fake news'. That's more of a Trump thing.

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1 minute ago, evadgib said:

The name has caught on & for good reason. I'm looking forward to the lefties reaction when he is returned again next week.

 

I don't know if you recall, but it originally was used by various media outlets to address the flow of such 'news stories' from dodgy elements, often favoring Trump's campaign. It was only later that Trump 'took over' the term and started using it over and over again - usually without much substantiation or cause.

 

You said it 'caught on' - yes, but not quite in the meaning implied by the poster I replied to (or even yourself). Spin it whichever way you like, this is not a universal term for MSM - but more of a Trump thing.

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2 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

I don't know if you recall, but it originally was used by various media outlets to address the flow of such 'news stories' from dodgy elements, often favoring Trump's campaign. It was only later that Trump 'took over' the term and started using it over and over again - usually without much substantiation or cause.

 

You said it 'caught on' - yes, but not quite in the meaning implied by the poster I replied to (or even yourself). Spin it whichever way you like, this is not a universal term for MSM - but more of a Trump thing.

I had never heard of it until Trump started using it & like everyone else I laughed. I have wrong since realized how wrong I was.

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11 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I had never heard of it until Trump started using it & like everyone else I laughed. I have wrong since realized how wrong I was.

 

I daresay your memory betrays you. It was widely discussed on this forum before Trump made it 'his' pet term.

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Just now, Morch said:

I daresay your memory betrays you. It was widely discussed on this forum before Trump made it 'his' pet term.

I'm not 🇺🇸 & was somewhat preoccupied with more pressing issues elsewhere.

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1 hour ago, evadgib said:

I had never heard of it until Trump started using it & like everyone else I laughed. I have wrong since realized how wrong I was.

Not everyone else laughed.

 

Trump’s attacks on the press are far from a laughing matter.

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3 hours ago, Ed Ball said:

Maybe you might listen to Glen Greenwald, then. 

He has just resigned from the media outlet he co-founded because of activism replacing journalism. You can read his resignation letter here.

In it he says

 

 

That's all very well, but I doubt even Greenwald would be as bold as to claim all (or even most) news and news media venues are 'fake news'. Not every 'fake news' story qualifies as 'dissent' and vice versa.

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18 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not everyone else laughed.

 

Trump’s attacks on the press are far from a laughing matter.

Of interest to the board from GMB today:

 

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The news media (80% Democrat in U.S.) isn't pro-Biden...how could anyone have such a silly idea...you can't make this stuff up!

 

Greenwald resigns from The Intercept citing censorship

 

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald said on Thursday he had resigned from The Intercept after the US investigative media outlet purportedly refused to publish his article critical of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/30/greenwald-resigns-from-the-intercept-over-biden-article

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/523402-glenn-greenwald-resigns-from-the-intercept

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1 hour ago, evadgib said:

Of interest to the board from GMB today:

 

Good old Nig. Rails against the MSM, but isn't averse to accepting 'sponsorship' from The Daily Telegraph to cover the US election.

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