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All safety training is a good thing but I’m still surprised that 400cc Is considered a (big bike) that’s a toy were I come from that beeing said a moped goes fast enough to kill ya if you or the other guy is stupid ride safe and defensive 

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What about the many big bike riders who have been riding them for years, or even decades?. Again, an ill-thought out idea, with many questions still left unanswered. Another knee-jerk reaction to a pr

Begin with an IQ test, that would filter out quite a few. 

So lets take a look at the Yamaha MT-15, it is only a 155CC bike, yet can do 140 Km/H. Enough torque and 6 speeds to accelerate as fast as a larger bike and yet would not be considered a big bike.  Yo

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On 10/28/2020 at 8:40 AM, webfact said:

The Thai Rath story suggested that riders would need to provide evidence of having been through the required training before a licence could be issued. They would also have to answer additional questions on a test.

 

Exactly what this would mean has yet to be revealed. 

So no point in posting in this thread until it's revealed.

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18 hours ago, Enfield said:

... Only way to test riding skills is to follow a rider for 50 kms or more under a variety  of road conditions . Not going to happen is it ?

Exactly! You can't test riding technique at a DLT office. 

 

My bike test in UK, in 1972, involved riding a circuit on public roads with the examiner observing, although I never actually saw him on the circuit - maybe he rode the circuit on his own bike, I don't remember how it worked. However, he picked up on what he saw as faults, even if not 'failing' faults, and mentioned them at the end of the test.

 

I know this topic doesn't really involved 'advanced' riding but I'll go there anyway.

 

My advanced IAM and RoSPA tests involved about 90 minutes on public roads, both rural and urban. Just me pursued by the examiner who was a police Class 1 bike rider in both cases. They emphasised 'making progress' so that, if you rode safely but too slowly for conditions, it was a mark against you. While a very friendly experience (they were both like going for a ride with a mate), if the examiner thought you didn't meet the criteria, you failed the test. No chance of a bribe to pass.

 

But passing an advanced test was a matter of personal pride, something I don't think exists among Thais as far as roadcraft is concerned.

 

Nothing like that will happen in Thailand largely because any 'proper' examiners are likely to be very thin on the ground.

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13 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Glad you missed the point.  6 gears and acceleration is still enough to walk away from a general scooter, and the way these young teens ride these bikes they accelerate as fast as they can off of the line trying to race the bigger bikes. A 125, or 150 cc scooter does not have the top speed the MT-15 has either.  But I digress.  The point is that it is enough torque to toss someone off of the bike who is an in-experienced rider.

 

Ridden many big bikes in my lifetime.  No need to ride fast if you know how to ride.  I rode Police Enforcement bikes for a living for many years.  Harley, Kawasaki, and BMW.  No  need to ride a large bike anymore.  Sold my Harley Road Deleted before I moved here.  If you can not ride properly and safely then one does not need to ride a MC, but that does not stop the Thai's, most of who are unlicensed.

I’m sorry, but it’s you who missed my point! You literally said that the 155cc bike accelerates AS FAST as a bigger bike and it simply doesn’t! 

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On 10/28/2020 at 8:53 AM, RotBenz8888 said:

Begin with an IQ test, that would filter out quite a few. 

One could be forgiven for suggesting that anyone who rides a motorbike by choice in Thailand should undergo an IQ test.

I rode a motorbike in Australia for years but not here, it’s hard enough on four wheels but wouldn’t risk it on two.

A couple of years ago my Thai wife and I visited her uncle who was in a Government hospital in Chiang Mai after having a motor bike accident.

Every patient in the ward and there were plenty, were motorbike  accidents.

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10 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

They should include common sense for riding bicycles as well. Had 2 yesterday come barreling around corners going out into the traffic lane.  Hard to teach inbred idiocy to have common sense.

how many stop/check, when entering a major road....to see if it is clear to do so........hardly any.

they just continue to enter the road.....

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On 10/28/2020 at 9:07 AM, soi3eddie said:

Why not start with training any motorbike rider and enforcing existing laws? I saw three teenagers riding on Phaholyothin Road at Ari on Sunday. The insanely loud exhaust drew my attention. Three persons on one bike (150cc at most), speeding fast through heavy traffic and not one of them was wearing a helmet. I was expecting to hear a crash.

 

< 400cc are immune to crashes as all people in  Thailand have vast experience on small bikes starting at school age, so skilled that no helmets are needed and the load bearing limits of the bike are totally wrong with a lot of space for the 4 friends and even the dog...  hey, and if one of them has a mask on, well... ... 

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On 10/28/2020 at 9:05 AM, NCC1701A said:

i am sitting in my love nest right now on Sukhumvit right next to Asok BTS.

 

When the light changes bikes like Kawasaki 1000 cc take off as fast as possible.

 

I mean they are really haulin' ***.

 

not a cop in sight. 

 

and that is why this BS will never change.

 

 

 

I have a Yamaha Aerox 155, not so big but I'll confess to "jack rabbit" starts. Observing the needed double look for those running through the red light, my object is to get out a bit ahead of the grouping to pick my position which I hold without weaving so as to try and stay alive. Thus far, it has worked for me. Oh, I have come off the bike 3 times until I got it through my thick skull that I cannot carry something in my left hand and use the right hand brake while rounding a corner with some road sand underneath.

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On 10/28/2020 at 9:07 AM, soi3eddie said:

Why not start with training any motorbike rider and enforcing existing laws? I saw three teenagers riding on Phaholyothin Road at Ari on Sunday. The insanely loud exhaust drew my attention. Three persons on one bike (150cc at most), speeding fast through heavy traffic and not one of them was wearing a helmet. I was expecting to hear a crash.

Only 3? I see 5 here in Hua Hin on a regular basis. Mom, Dad and 3 kids. There really is no point in changing or adding more regulations when the current ones are ignored. 

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