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9 hours ago, Seismic said:

What about the many big bike riders who have been riding them for years, or even decades?. Again, an ill-thought out idea, with many questions still left unanswered. Another knee-jerk reaction to a problem that does not actually exist, from people with no expertise in the area.

Well, how about you go get a drivers’ license for it then, just like you’re required back home/in just about any country in the world?! 
 

The global expertise is that you need a license to drive or ride a motorized vehicle. Thailand is just catching up to that now and rightfully so! Even at age 18 in a lot of countries you’re not allowed  to get a license for a big bike right away. You have to get two years of riding experience first and then get the actual big bike license. Why do you think that is? Bike bikes are no joke and I don’t want to see little “kids” riding them on the streets anywhere in the world! 
 

Do you also bitch and complain that you have to wear a helmet and get insurance for your big bike or do you happily skip on those, too?

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What about the many big bike riders who have been riding them for years, or even decades?. Again, an ill-thought out idea, with many questions still left unanswered. Another knee-jerk reaction to a pr

Begin with an IQ test, that would filter out quite a few. 

So lets take a look at the Yamaha MT-15, it is only a 155CC bike, yet can do 140 Km/H. Enough torque and 6 speeds to accelerate as fast as a larger bike and yet would not be considered a big bike.  Yo

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1 hour ago, Kerryd said:

Here is the actual notification from the Royal Gazette. Unfortunately it's all in Thai of course and when I use Google to translate it, it comes out in unintelligible gibberish.

http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/2563/A/088/T_0006.PDF


From what I can glean, it does refer to new licenses and renewals. So theoretically, you should be able to continue using your current license until it expires. But - this is Thailand - and the cops could decide that everyone (riding a big bike) has to get a new license regardless of when the old one expires.

There's no way to tell how it's going to be enforced at this point in time.

ENFORCED ?????!!!!!!!!!!

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How did this guy get so high in the force? Here goes another great idea of a non researcher of what motorbikes are involved in the majority of accidents killing people. It’s not the big bikes.......it’s the 50 - 155cc motorbikes. 
 

It those bikes the police look the other way when they see three or more on holding a child.  It’s those bikes that’s stolen and sold in the province to people with no driver license, so insurance and the stolen plates still being used.  

See the police across from the lady on a motorbike with no hamlet. I could not get my recorder on fast enough to film how many times he look at her. 
 

And they wonder why the new generation wants change. ...🧐🤔🧐🤔


 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Kerryd said:

Here is the actual notification from the Royal Gazette. Unfortunately it's all in Thai of course and when I use Google to translate it, it comes out in unintelligible gibberish.

http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/2563/A/088/T_0006.PDF


From what I can glean, it does refer to new licenses and renewals. So theoretically, you should be able to continue using your current license until it expires. But - this is Thailand - and the cops could decide that everyone (riding a big bike) has to get a new license regardless of when the old one expires.

There's no way to tell how it's going to be enforced at this point in time.

 

The bit about big bikes just says that anyone wanting a license for a bike with an engine cylinder capacity more than 400 cc or power output more than 35kW [about 47 hp) will have to show they passed training as specified by the Director General and approved by the Minister. So, no-one knows what the 'training' will be ...

 

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36 minutes ago, bipper said:

Cb500x is Thai built.

CB650 - Made in Thailand

CBR1000 - Made in Thailand (I think)

Loads of Kawasakis, big and small have been made in Thailand for years. Except maybe the ZX10, but not sure on that.

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10 hours ago, soi3eddie said:

Why not start with training any motorbike rider and enforcing existing laws? I saw three teenagers riding on Phaholyothin Road at Ari on Sunday. The insanely loud exhaust drew my attention. Three persons on one bike (150cc at most), speeding fast through heavy traffic and not one of them was wearing a helmet. I was expecting to hear a crash.

I bet they had their Covid masks on though!

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10 hours ago, Seismic said:

What about the many big bike riders who have been riding them for years, or even decades?. Again, an ill-thought out idea, with many questions still left unanswered. Another knee-jerk reaction to a problem that does not actually exist, from people with no expertise in the area.

I passed my test in Thailand and have had an er6n for over 3 years, no speeding fines, no accident's. I tried a couple of smaller bikes, thought I might change down! but I find them harder to handle, slow jerky and frankly dangerous. What is this extra test? have we got different road rules for different vehicles now? The test is understandable if it's for constant offenders and newbies, as for most big bike owners of more than say a years ownership of a big bike, just upgrade for a fee? make sense to anyone else??

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More  cretinous  ideas from the govt of stupidity, never  ceases to amaze me, any fool can see the bulk of accidents involving bikes  will be under 150cc it will make not even the slightest dent in their failed statistics by forcing "big  bike" duh, riders to take a  more stringent? test.

Want to see a real test  look at the UK big bikes tests, it'll take you years and cost a lot to get through those.

The facts are you have a nation of people unwilling to follow any rules and a  Police farce unwilling to  enforce any of the unbelievable  amount of <deleted> laws you produce like endless verbal diarrhea on a daily  basis.

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31 minutes ago, Truth Will Set You Free said:

How did this guy get so high in the force? Here goes another great idea of a non researcher of what motorbikes are involved in the majority of accidents killing people. It’s not the big bikes.......it’s the 50 - 155cc motorbikes. 
 

It those bikes the police look the other way when they see three or more on holding a child.  It’s those bikes that’s stolen and sold in the province to people with no driver license, so insurance and the stolen plates still being used.  

See the police across from the lady on a motorbike with no hamlet. I could not get my recorder on fast enough to film how many times he look at her. 
 

And they wonder why the new generation wants change. ...🧐🤔🧐🤔


 

 

 

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And the policeman's helmet is  not done up!

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13 minutes ago, jambesobrien said:

I passed my test in Thailand and have had an er6n for over 3 years, no speeding fines, no accident's. I tried a couple of smaller bikes, thought I might change down! but I find them harder to handle, slow jerky and frankly dangerous. What is this extra test? have we got different road rules for different vehicles now? The test is understandable if it's for constant offenders and newbies, as for most big bike owners of more than say a years ownership of a big bike, just upgrade for a fee? make sense to anyone else??

 

I expect little will come of it...  as with most things, announcements, crack downs, hubs of, etc etc its all a lot of hot air and pretence for the media to report on. Effecting actual change requires effort which is wholly contradictory to the general overwhelming apathy the any official body employs. 

 

This is nothing to worry about until we start reading of people getting fined 200 baht for riding a 'big bike’ on a regular bike licence - we are years away from that happening. IF it does happen, we just meet whatever requirements at the time. 

 

Nothing much to worry about, nothing much to see - just a load of hot air at the moment. 

 

All this issue does is highlight the juvenile thinking of those in positions of power - side step genuine difficult issues and deal with smaller easier to target things (in this case ‘bikes over 400cc) and look like they are trying to do something - its a complete farce. 

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1 hour ago, bipper said:

Pretending they care...

 

Replace the U-Turns with roundabouts!!! There you are. Road death halved at least but you don't care that much do you! No.

Wouldn't  work , they haven't a  clue how a roundabout works.

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7 hours ago, Stubby said:

A few years later, learner riders could only ride 125cc (I think), and they had capped speeds.

1983 was the year ,prior to that you could also rider a bike up to 1000cc on L plates as long as it had a sidecar. My brother got one but forgot about the sidecar when turning the corner, went straight into a parked car

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3 hours ago, JesseHumphry said:

The response here is pretty weird. People calling him 'unhinged' and 'unstable'. Like...

What is he supposed to do? Nothing? Keep his mouth shut? Harm someone else? 

He took an action that would get eyeballs looking at him and ears listening. That's the point of a protest. That's the point of an action like this. And the only person he hurt was himself.

We're talking about an absurdly corrupt government that has shown a total lack of interest in the concerns of its citizens. This seems like an MP that pulls a stunt to try to do something to change something. 

The problem is that people who don't want to listen will make up excuses on why his actions were wrong, but it doesn't matter what action he takes; it would always be wrong in their eyes. Speak up? Wrong. Hurt someone? Wrong. Hurt yourself? Wrong. Protest peacefully? Wrong. Protest violently? Wrong. 

The only 'right' answer for these authoritarians is full, total, willful compliance. And that's not an option in a society that wants to be free. 

Totally agree,be a martyr without physically harming anyone!

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1 hour ago, pacovl46 said:

I hate to break this to you, but if you think that a 155cc bike has the same acceleration as one with 600 and above then you’ve never ridden a big bike! There’s a MASSIVE difference in acceleration as well as top speed! 

Glad you missed the point.  6 gears and acceleration is still enough to walk away from a general scooter, and the way these young teens ride these bikes they accelerate as fast as they can off of the line trying to race the bigger bikes. A 125, or 150 cc scooter does not have the top speed the MT-15 has either.  But I digress.  The point is that it is enough torque to toss someone off of the bike who is an in-experienced rider.

 

Ridden many big bikes in my lifetime.  No need to ride fast if you know how to ride.  I rode Police Enforcement bikes for a living for many years.  Harley, Kawasaki, and BMW.  No  need to ride a large bike anymore.  Sold my Harley Road Deleted before I moved here.  If you can not ride properly and safely then one does not need to ride a MC, but that does not stop the Thai's, most of who are unlicensed.

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