PM insists he will not resign, saying he is not going to ‘abandon the country during crisis’

[spidermike007]

49 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Excellent comments by Gen Khun Prayut Chan O Cha,  as I mentioned before, he is not occupied by the student protests, his priority is the economy and helping the poor. So all those TV farang who babbled on about the PM stepping down, sorry to disappoint you but you are wrong again. lol 

 

That must be some seriously powerful Kool-aid you are drinking. Helping the poor? Are you serious? What has this man done for the poor lately? Besides the 5,000 baht handout, with the 86% rejection rate, which demonstrated how "not serious" these clowns were about helping the people. His entire M.O. is about helping the rich. The masses count for nothing with this creep. 

[Ventenio]

first you use your power to buy property, bank accounts around the world, and get about 100000 billion baht safe.   then you sit down and make everyone happy ... enemies are bad.  then say it's all to help the country

 

then you retire on a zillion baht.

 

reading about american CEO's giving themselves millions and then going bankrupt.   money..... money..... money.      follow it

[steven100]

8 minutes ago, heist said:

Or we could look at the facts

Source: https://www.aseantoday.com/2019/01/thailands-wealth-inequality-is-the-highest-in-the-world-what-does-this-mean-for-upcoming-elections/#:~:text=Wealth inequality in Thailand is,now hold a massive 85.7%.

or we could look at the facts and see how GDP has increased year on year ....   or how government spending has increased year on year ....   or how many projects have been implemented since Gen Khun Prayut Chan O Cha came to office as PM ....

 

As you can see ....  facts are facts .....   :  

 

Thailand has performed quite well economically prior to the COVID19 pandemic. Since coming to power as PM Khun Prayut Chan O Cha has implemented hundreds of projects that have benefited the middle class and lower class income earners including farmers. GDP has increased year on year as shown.

Also, since 2014 Government spending has increased substantially as shown year on year with infrastructure projects such as SRT expansion and upgrade, Sea port redevelopment, MRT expansion, BTS extension, North Eastern Highway upgrade, Various rail links in progress, hundreds of smaller projects ongoing. 

Hundreds of thousands of jobs have been created due to these and many more projects, both directly and indirectly through suppliers and contractors. 

Also, The implementation of the EEC infrastructure projects, high-speed railway project that will connect the country’s three main airports – Don Mueang, Suvarnabhumi and U-tapao.

The third phase of the Map Ta Phut Port project is with select private sectors for maintenance, repair and overhaul centre project and U-tapao airport project.

Other infrastructure projects outside the EEC extend from four routes of heavy rail projects, six more routes of double-track railway projects, to light rail projects in Chiang Mai, Khon Kaen, Nakhon Ratchasima and Phuket provinces.

This government has fast tracked more development projects in the past 5 years than the previous governments tried to do over 10 yrs. 

Thailand's exports have increased year on year as shown below. This government is committed to ensure Thailand moves forward with GPD, exports both domestically and internationally, Job creation, infrustructure development, agricultural projects to assist rural farmers, new schools, bridges, road, rail and BTS, MRT, hospitals and many more.

[faraday]

34 minutes ago, steven100 said:

I guess their are some sad farang on the TV website today .....  ????

C'mon Steven, if your cojones are so large, post that comment to DSD: But you won't.

 

Your constant trolling - because that's what it amounts to, is quite juvenile.

 

That's not to completely denigrate your content, because apart from bigging up your alleged hero, it is interesting, knowledgeable & balanced.

 

3...2...1

 

[Susco]

5 minutes ago, steven100 said:

or how government spending has increased year on year

 

Yes it started with microphones at 145.000 Baht a piece, then some, then all those military toys, and the icing on the cake a few submarines at billions of DOLLARS . That adds quickly to the spending

[mtls2005]

No reason to resign as long as his manager is satisfied with his performance.

[OumarhindaOunsingha]

41 minutes ago, steven100 said:

you have your opinion, I have mine ....  let's leave it at that shall we. 

Not about opinion. About fact.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

PM insists he will not resign, saying he is not going to ‘abandon the country during crisis’

Good.

Thailand, and the rest of the world, is in enough trouble right now.

Prayut and his team did a fantastic job to keep Thailand mostly Covid free.

 

And he is clearly working for Thailand and Thais - not like the fugitive and his little sister.

I know he is not perfect but a lot better than previous PMs.

If people don't like him then they should vote him out in the next election.

[mtls2005]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

If people don't like him then they should vote him out in the next election.

 

I'll stipulate that the Constitution du Jour is overly complex, so undertsand your confusion.

 

The people do not vote for the PM.

 

 

[steven100]

7 minutes ago, OumarhindaOunsingha said:

Not about opinion. About fact.

yes .... and I gave the facts.

[heist]

24 minutes ago, steven100 said:

or we could look at the facts and see how GDP has increased year on year ....   or how government spending has increased year on year ....   or how many projects have been implemented since Gen Khun Prayut Chan O Cha came to office as PM ....

 

As you can see ....  facts are facts .....   :  

 

Thailand has performed quite well economically prior to the COVID19 pandemic. Since coming to power as PM Khun Prayut Chan O Cha has implemented hundreds of projects that have benefited the middle class and lower class income earners including farmers. GDP has increased year on year as shown.

Also, since 2014 Government spending has increased substantially as shown year on year with infrastructure projects such as SRT expansion and upgrade, Sea port redevelopment, MRT expansion, BTS extension, North Eastern Highway upgrade, Various rail links in progress, hundreds of smaller projects ongoing. 

Hundreds of thousands of jobs have been created due to these and many more projects, both directly and indirectly through suppliers and contractors. 

Also, The implementation of the EEC infrastructure projects, high-speed railway project that will connect the country’s three main airports – Don Mueang, Suvarnabhumi and U-tapao.

The third phase of the Map Ta Phut Port project is with select private sectors for maintenance, repair and overhaul centre project and U-tapao airport project.

Other infrastructure projects outside the EEC extend from four routes of heavy rail projects, six more routes of double-track railway projects, to light rail projects in Chiang Mai, Khon Kaen, Nakhon Ratchasima and Phuket provinces.

This government has fast tracked more development projects in the past 5 years than the previous governments tried to do over 10 yrs. 

Thailand's exports have increased year on year as shown below. This government is committed to ensure Thailand moves forward with GPD, exports both domestically and internationally, Job creation, infrustructure development, agricultural projects to assist rural farmers, new schools, bridges, road, rail and BTS, MRT, hospitals and many more.

All that extra Government spending clearly isn't working if the wealth gap keeps growing. And the unemployment rate has risen since the last coup. 

Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/332222/unemployment-rate-in-thailand/

[OneMoreFarang]

Just now, mtls2005 said:

 

I'll stipulate that the Constitution du Jour is overly complex, so undertsand your confusion.

 

The people do not vote for the PM.

 

 

Yes, in theory you are right. Just like they didn't vote for Thaksin and his little sister. But apart from the technicalities people vote for the PM.

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

You should think back to the political rallies in 2006 and 2014, when the ones in power also did not resign,”

No General, they did not resign, the army (you in 2014 as it happens) used it as your excuse to stage a coup.

[mtls2005]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

But apart from the technicalities people vote for the PM.

 

No, they do not.

 

Parliament does.

 

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

[fishtank]

At the time he took power it was needed and he did a good job for a year.

After that he has just clung onto power like every good megalomaniac dictator would do.

Made life a hell of a lot worse for the majority of the people.

This clown is up there with Robert Mugabe, Hitler, Gaddafi etc.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

I understand that people don't think Prayut is perfect. Yes, correct.

But please compare the current government with the time when the fugitive and his little sister were in charge.

At that time we had all the time scandals and it was obvious that Thaksin worked mostly for Thaksin and his family, and he used Thailand to enrich himself. And he did that so obvious that many people were upset and demonstrated against him.

 

Now compare this with the current situation. Was there any major scandal with Prayut? The biggest scandal which I remember was the guy with all the watches. Bad, but not half as bad as many of Thaksin's scandals.

 

And since Prayut is in charge we don't see any red mob on the streets anymore. That's great news.

 

If people want a better PM, fine. Fight corruption and vote for decent honest people. If people would do that then Thailand would have a better government and a better PM. But instead most Thais vote again and again for the same corrupt politicians. And then they are surprised that they are governed by those corrupt politicians they votes for. TiT.

[fishtank]

6 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

No, they do not.

 

Parliament does.

 

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

Correct and a heavily loaded parliament at that.

Mostly unalected. 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 minutes ago, fishtank said:

Made life a hell of a lot worse for the majority of the people.

In which way?

2 minutes ago, fishtank said:

This clown is up there with Robert Mugabe, Hitler, Gaddafi etc.

Really? Is it possible that you have no idea about those dictators. Or was it something they told you in one of those red mob meetings.

[Misterwhisper]

1 hour ago, KhunKenAP said:

When will he realize he is the crisis?

 

This picture shows how much he is listening.

 

I have a quite similar picture. Of my nephew. Same facial expression, fingers in his ears, taken when he was scolded by his dad (my brother) after he'd done something naughty. He's 4.

[fishtank]

8 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

In which way?

Really? Is it possible that you have no idea about those dictators. Or was it something they told you in one of those red mob meetings.

My apologies. You are correct.

Hitler won an election. Uncle Tu did not.

[herfiehandbag]

15 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

If people want a better PM, fine. Fight corruption and vote for decent honest people. If people would do that then Thailand would have a better government and a better PM. But instead most Thais vote again and again for the same corrupt politicians. And then they are surprised that they are governed by those corrupt politicians they votes for. TiT.

Except that, no matter who the Thai's vote for, corrupt or not, they actually get who the military (who are beholden to the super wealthy) decide will govern them. The price which the nation must pay is the utter incompetence, rampant corruption and venal political persecution which we are witnessing from this shower at present. 

 

The price is paid by the people. The military and their backers are untouched, or beneficiaries of that payment.

 

The (predominantly) young and largely politically self tutored protesters have decided that price is too high. They want a fundamental change. And all this fellow can do is bleat on pathetically about them not respecting their parents and teachers as good Thai children should!

Edited October 28, 2020 by herfiehandbag

[ThailandRyan]

20 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I understand that people don't think Prayut is perfect. Yes, correct.

But please compare the current government with the time when the fugitive and his little sister were in charge.

At that time we had all the time scandals and it was obvious that Thaksin worked mostly for Thaksin and his family, and he used Thailand to enrich himself. And he did that so obvious that many people were upset and demonstrated against him.

 

Now compare this with the current situation. Was there any major scandal with Prayut? The biggest scandal which I remember was the guy with all the watches. Bad, but not half as bad as many of Thaksin's scandals.

 

And since Prayut is in charge we don't see any red mob on the streets anymore. That's great news.

 

If people want a better PM, fine. Fight corruption and vote for decent honest people. If people would do that then Thailand would have a better government and a better PM. But instead most Thais vote again and again for the same corrupt politicians. And then they are surprised that they are governed by those corrupt politicians they votes for. TiT.

Yet not one person would have voted for Prayut had he not self elected himself by conducting the Coup, and creating laws that protect himself and his cadre.  Tell me I am wrong.  If the people could vote to install a senate and a lower house and then the PM be selected from within those parameters, then maybe Thailand could evolve and move forward.  Maybe this is the catalyst that was needed to right the ship called Thailand, instead of watching it hit another deep dark spot in it's history.

[OneMoreFarang]

6 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Except that, no matter who the Thai's vote for, corrupt or not, they actually get who the military (who are beholden to the super wealthy) decide will govern them.

Some time ago people voted for Thaksin - or his party.

And Thaksin was in charge for several years.

And I am pretty sure Thaksin could be still in charge if he would have worked for all Thais and Thailand instead of enriching himself. Many people got upset and finally there was the coup. And many people supported that coup.

If Thaksin would have worked for Thailand and not his own pocket then I don't think that coup would have happend. And just in case it would have happened the masses would not have supported the coup.

[OneMoreFarang]

5 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Yet not one person would have voted for Prayut had he not self elected himself by conducting the Coup, and creating laws that protect himself and his cadre.  Tell me I am wrong

You are wrong.

Prayut was one of the available bad options. There was no good option.

Lots of people want stability and not violent red mobs on the street. That is one big reason why many voted for him.

[2 is 1]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

“I refuse to comply with the proposals that do not represent the needs of the majority of the people, and will not run away from problems or abandon the country during crisis,” he stated.

It's much more that you going to give grace to this coundry if you get the <deleted> out! But you need take all your friend's whit you! POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

[2 is 1]

35 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I understand that people don't think Prayut is perfect. Yes, correct.

But please compare the current government with the time when the fugitive and his little sister were in charge.

At that time we had all the time scandals and it was obvious that Thaksin worked mostly for Thaksin and his family, and he used Thailand to enrich himself. And he did that so obvious that many people were upset and demonstrated against him.

 

Now compare this with the current situation. Was there any major scandal with Prayut? The biggest scandal which I remember was the guy with all the watches. Bad, but not half as bad as many of Thaksin's scandals.

 

And since Prayut is in charge we don't see any red mob on the streets anymore. That's great news.

 

If people want a better PM, fine. Fight corruption and vote for decent honest people. If people would do that then Thailand would have a better government and a better PM. But instead most Thais vote again and again for the same corrupt politicians. And then they are surprised that they are governed by those corrupt politicians they votes for. TiT.

Nobody want chance sht to other sht! Point is that military people don't know how to lead hole coundry! Hope some day this coundry has leaders who sign out from corruption!

Edited October 28, 2020 by 2 is 1

[dimitriv]

Can someone translate the first page with comments to Thai, print it,  and send it to Prayut?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 28, 2020 by dimitriv

[sucit]

Oh boy, if only each of us got a dollar every time a government used covid as an excuse to get something they want...

[rkidlad]

31 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I understand that people don't think Prayut is perfect. Yes, correct.

But please compare the current government with the time when the fugitive and his little sister were in charge.

At that time we had all the time scandals and it was obvious that Thaksin worked mostly for Thaksin and his family, and he used Thailand to enrich himself. And he did that so obvious that many people were upset and demonstrated against him.

 

Now compare this with the current situation. Was there any major scandal with Prayut? The biggest scandal which I remember was the guy with all the watches. Bad, but not half as bad as many of Thaksin's scandals.

 

And since Prayut is in charge we don't see any red mob on the streets anymore. That's great news.

 

If people want a better PM, fine. Fight corruption and vote for decent honest people. If people would do that then Thailand would have a better government and a better PM. But instead most Thais vote again and again for the same corrupt politicians. And then they are surprised that they are governed by those corrupt politicians they votes for. TiT.

Yes, people are protesting against him because he's not perfect. They should stop comparing turds and just accept that ultimately it will just be another turd who leads them. Better the turd you know, and all that. 

 

People want better. To keep reminding people that things have never been perfect is a slap in the face to people who simply want better.

 

Prayut resigning doesn't mean a return to the old days. It doesn't mean Thailand has to copy flawed Western democracies. It simply means they strive to be better. Democracy has never been allowed to happen here. That's not democracy's fault. That's the meddling elite stopping it.  

 

Younger people can see what's going on. They know it's a system rigged to favour the elite. And quite rightfully they want change. They don't hold themselves in such low regard as you hold them. 

[madmitch]

34 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I understand that people don't think Prayut is perfect. Yes, correct.

But please compare the current government with the time when the fugitive and his little sister were in charge.

At that time we had all the time scandals and it was obvious that Thaksin worked mostly for Thaksin and his family, and he used Thailand to enrich himself. And he did that so obvious that many people were upset and demonstrated against him.

 

Now compare this with the current situation. Was there any major scandal with Prayut? The biggest scandal which I remember was the guy with all the watches. Bad, but not half as bad as many of Thaksin's scandals.

 

And since Prayut is in charge we don't see any red mob on the streets anymore. That's great news.

 

If people want a better PM, fine. Fight corruption and vote for decent honest people. If people would do that then Thailand would have a better government and a better PM. But instead most Thais vote again and again for the same corrupt politicians. And then they are surprised that they are governed by those corrupt politicians they votes for. TiT.

With the senate, the courts, the military, the major families (including THE major Thai family), the election commission and just about everyone else of significance onside, not to forget control of the media, the current lot been able to cover things up much easier than Thaksin and his cronies could.