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Not really, most politicians are old and paying all the debt back and worrying about unemployment in the future is not going to bother them in the slightest when leaving office.  In years to come the

no, neither him nor anyone else know its going to be harder or more deadly, nothing indicate it whatsoever

"The virus is circulating at a speed that not even the most pessimistic forecasts had anticipated,"   And China seems to be fine? 

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1 hour ago, teacherclaire said:

"The virus is circulating at a speed that not even the most pessimistic forecasts had anticipated,"

 

And China seems to be fine? 

When a case of infection is found in China, the entire family and neighbors are immediately forced into quarantine. If there are multiple cases in an area, military units come in and block the roads in and out. A very different and forceful response.

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2 hours ago, Tounge Thaied said:

What is a "Case" again? What's the definition of a Case? A case does not necessarily always mean illness.

A case definition is a set of standard criteria for classifying whether a person has a particular disease, syndrome, or other health condition. Some case definitions, particularly those used for national surveillance, have been developed and adopted as national standards that ensure comparability.

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3 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Not really, most politicians are old and paying all the debt back and worrying about unemployment in the future is not going to bother them in the slightest when leaving office.  In years to come the politicians will not be seen as saviours in my opinion - more economical terrorists.

And don't forget the lost educational opportunity of kids loosing a year or more of education...a generation of academically and socially stunted kids (so more low functioning adults in future requiring more government support (taxpayers support) to get through life.

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Wow, this is going to hit the French and German economies extremely hard. Not good news for the EU, given those 2 'states' are by far the blocs largest financial contributors now that Britain has rejected them.

 

I'd be signing that FTA with the UK pronto if I was them. 

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23 minutes ago, teacherclaire said:

IMO, the right time for Germany to leave the European Union.

 

  They can't pay for ten countries, can they?

They make tons of money thanks to their stupid neighbors. 

 

As far as the German economy is concerned, the euro is grossly undervalued, which gives a fantastic boost to its exports. 

 

Meanwhile the euros is grossly overvalued for most of the other economies of the union. 

 

It is the latter (Spain, Italy...) who should leave. 

 

Germany is not paying anything for the other members... these are just entries to balance the ECBs book, without any real transfer of money from one state to another. 

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15 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Mocking President Trump and the U.S. virus response was fun while it lasted...

 

Gloom settles over Europe as days darken and coronavirus surges

 

As new coronavirus infections surge again in Europe, breaking daily records, the mood is growing dark on the continent...Smugness in Europe about having bested the Americans under President Trump is fading with the record-breaking daily counts in a dozen countries.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/covid-europe-second-wave-lockdowns/2020/10/28/e0f2d9b2-1863-11eb-8bda-814ca56e138b_story.html

"The Darkest Winter" is upon us.

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1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Mocking President Trump and the U.S. virus response was fun while it lasted...

 

Gloom settles over Europe as days darken and coronavirus surges

 

As new coronavirus infections surge again in Europe, breaking daily records, the mood is growing dark on the continent...Smugness in Europe about having bested the Americans under President Trump is fading with the record-breaking daily counts in a dozen countries.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/covid-europe-second-wave-lockdowns/2020/10/28/e0f2d9b2-1863-11eb-8bda-814ca56e138b_story.html

Trump bungled the response to the first wave (compared to Europe). This is fact. It cannot be caught up.

 

This is now the second wave, so the issue is how they respond to it.  It will surge a bit later (a few weeks) in the US, so Trump will still have to opportunity to show if He's able to do better.

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