France and Germany thrust into lockdown as second COVID-19 wave sweeps Europe

[scammed 1,765]

12 hours ago, candide said:

And, of course, you know better.....

yes i do, every data released show no deaths from the much vaunted '2nd wave', only increased tested positive

[rabas 5,295]

3 minutes ago, Sametboy2019 said:

So why was it different?

It's similar to the earlier post about the  mutation 416G, which was more infective and one reason (among others) that COVID-19 spread so easily in the West. 416G was in wave 1. Now there is a new dominant mutation from Spain 20A.EU1 which is quickly replacing older strains.

 

Its too early to know (always is with scientists) if the rapid spread is because of the new mutation, seasonal changes, or travel patterns, etc. The rapid spread and replacement of the older strains hint it may spread more easily. 

 

I found a paper that was just released, some graphs and charts.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.25.20219063v1

You need to download the pdf for good images.

[Tounge Thaied 1,432]

12 hours ago, rabas said:

Check out EU hospitalization rates and get back to us.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/22/world/europe/europe-hospitals-covid.html

 

Ahh... Right. Those hospitalization rates have nothing to do with the normal seasonal flu rates. You're mad. 

[rabas 5,295]

16 minutes ago, scammed said:

yes i do, every data released show no deaths from the much vaunted '2nd wave', only increased tested positive

Old nonsense.

 

Check out EU hospitalization rates, setting records.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/22/world/europe/europe-hospitals-covid.html

 

Check out the now rising deaths in Spain and France. Death follow hospitalizations.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/

[Tounge Thaied 1,432]

3 minutes ago, rabas said:

Old nonsense.

 

Check out EU hospitalization rates, setting records.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/22/world/europe/europe-hospitals-covid.html

 

Check out the now rising deaths in Spain and France. Death follow hospitalizations.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/

Exactly!! Nonsense.

[scammed 1,765]

9 minutes ago, rabas said:

Old nonsense.

 

Check out EU hospitalization rates, setting records.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/22/world/europe/europe-hospitals-covid.html

 

Check out the now rising deaths in Spain and France. Death follow hospitalizations.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/

its the last pic you need to look at, this pic,

that trend is universal from all nations,

it was a spike half a year ago and it has more or less flatlined

to business as usual.

it is worth note that sweden that

did nothing dont see even this modest increase, its a complete flatline.

in case you missed it, there is no correlation between more tested positive and death rate

Edited October 29, 2020 by scammed

[Brunolem 7,178]

2 hours ago, teacherclaire said:

You have no idea what you're talking about. 

 

 

 

   In 2019 Germany's contributions to the budget of the European Union was 25.82 billion Euros, the highest of any EU member state. France was the next highest contributor at 21 billion Euros, followed by Italy at 14.96 billion Euros and the United Kingdom at 14 billion Euros.

I was not talking about the EU budget, but rather about Target 2, where Germany is on the hook for about 1 trillion euros...on paper.

 

Regarding the EU budget, each member pays its fair share in proportion of its size.

 

Germany has by far the largest economy and population, so it contributes the most.

 

The money spent on the budget is to pay for the giant technocratic apparatus of the EU, not to help members in trouble.

[Scott 16,119]

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Under the new French measures which come into force on Friday, people will be required to stay in their homes except to buy essential goods, seek medical attention, or exercise for up to one hour a day. They will be permitted to go to work if their employer deems it impossible for them to do the job from home. Schools will stay open.

What if one wanted to exercise 2 times per day one hour each session? or lets say 1 time but for 1 hour and 30 minutes? I frequently go on half-marathon runs which usually take me about 2 hours to complete. Also how does one go about beheading during these times?

[candide 11,474]

10 hours ago, Brunolem said:

The money spent on the budget is to pay for the giant technocratic apparatus of the EU, not to help members in trouble.

The EU spends less than 7% of its annual budget on administration. This includes staff salaries and pensions, schools for children of staff members, buildings, etc.

[candide 11,474]

11 hours ago, scammed said:

yes i do, every data released show no deaths from the much vaunted '2nd wave', only increased tested positive

Deaths usually occur 2-8 weeks after the onset of COVID-19 symptoms, so we need to wait.

Edited October 29, 2020 by candide

[scammed 1,765]

5 hours ago, candide said:

Deaths usually occur 2-8 weeks after the onset of COVID-19 symptoms, so we need to wait.

i dont need to wait for the trend to be clear,

that is all over, i just need to wait 2 more month

to show how insignificant this was as viewed per year basis

[teacherclaire 1,857]

On 10/29/2020 at 6:55 AM, rabas said:

They have the instruction manual, which they refuse to release.

 

We shouldn't make fun of it. There's so much truth in it that it's already scary/. 

 

[teacherclaire 1,857]

On 10/29/2020 at 6:55 AM, rabas said:

They have the instruction manual, which they refuse to release.

 It's time that they give the damn manual back!