Hanaguma Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, placeholder said: But like you, they do indulge in treating unproven allegations as fact. Can you share with us how you know that Hunter Biden actually left that computer in the shop? 1. His signature on the receipt might be a bit of a giveaway. 2. The lack of denial from anyone in the Biden camp about the authenticity of either the computer or the contents of the emails found in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted November 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: 1. His signature on the receipt might be a bit of a giveaway. 2. The lack of denial from anyone in the Biden camp about the authenticity of either the computer or the contents of the emails found in it. Someday, somewhere, someone is going to come up with the idea that it's possible to duplicate signatures. I suggest that they call that practice forgery. Just maybe the lack of denial is due to the fact that they don't want to give give it the rumor mill's equivalent of oxygen: controversy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, placeholder said: Someday, somewhere, someone is going to come up with the idea that it's possible to duplicate signatures. I suggest that they call that practice forgery. Just maybe the lack of denial is due to the fact that they don't want to give give it the rumor mill's equivalent of oxygen: controversy. You're right, it is possible. Once the signature is presented though, the burden shifts. Again, nobody connected with Biden suggests that it is forged. Instead, they cry "smear" and run for cover. The deflection tactics being used by the Biden campaign are a dead giveaway that there is something to the story. They don't have to worry too much about giving the story oxygen though. The media is already smothering it nicely for them. Joe himself takes no questions at any of his events as far as I have heard, the media is kept far from him on those few occasions when he ventures out of his home. The President of the US needs to be vigorous and energetic. I have yet to see that Biden is physically up to the job. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: You're right, it is possible. Once the signature is presented though, the burden shifts. Again, nobody connected with Biden suggests that it is forged. Instead, they cry "smear" and run for cover. The deflection tactics being used by the Biden campaign are a dead giveaway that there is something to the story. They don't have to worry too much about giving the story oxygen though. The media is already smothering it nicely for them. Joe himself takes no questions at any of his events as far as I have heard, the media is kept far from him on those few occasions when he ventures out of his home. The President of the US needs to be vigorous and energetic. I have yet to see that Biden is physically up to the job. As I pointed out already, it could be that nobody connected with the Biden campaign is going to suggest anything in order not to give those allegations oxygen. But if they did start engaging with those allegations, then the press would cover it. Well if you have yet to see that Biden is physically up to the job who do these gerontologists think they are to disagree with you? Biden is slightly healthier, study says, but both presidential candidates may be ‘super-agers’ The presidential candidates and their supporters will likely keep belittling the other guy as a doddering old fool, but a group of geriatric experts say in a new paper that both President Trump and challenger Joe Biden appear to have the physical and cognitive tools to make it through four years in the White House. In fact, the two candidates’ relative good health and other advantages — parental longevity, access to top-notch healthcare and abstinence from smoking and drinking — suggest both men are likely to become long-living “super-agers,” who thrive well into their 80s, or beyond, according to a draft report written by three medical doctors and four researchers with expertise in public health, survival analysis and statistics. Three of the authors of the paper — Stuart Jay Olshansky, a public health professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago; Dr. Bradley Willcox, director of research in the Department of Geriatric Medicine at the University of Hawaii’s medical school; and UCLA Professor Hiram Beltran-Sanchez, an authority on the demographics of aging — wrote previously about how presidents tend to outlive average Americans. https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-09-25/biden-trump-super-agers-longevity-study Edited November 1, 2020 by placeholder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Betting odds are seldom wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, placeholder said: As I pointed out already, it could be that nobody connected with the Biden campaign is going to suggest anything in order not to give those allegations oxygen. But if they did start engaging with those allegations, then the press would cover it. Well if you have yet to see that Biden is physically up to the job who do these gerontologists think they are to disagree with you? Biden is slightly healthier, study says, but both presidential candidates may be ‘super-agers’ The presidential candidates and their supporters will likely keep belittling the other guy as a doddering old fool, but a group of geriatric experts say in a new paper that both President Trump and challenger Joe Biden appear to have the physical and cognitive tools to make it through four years in the White House. In fact, the two candidates’ relative good health and other advantages — parental longevity, access to top-notch healthcare and abstinence from smoking and drinking — suggest both men are likely to become long-living “super-agers,” who thrive well into their 80s, or beyond, according to a draft report written by three medical doctors and four researchers with expertise in public health, survival analysis and statistics. Three of the authors of the paper — Stuart Jay Olshansky, a public health professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago; Dr. Bradley Willcox, director of research in the Department of Geriatric Medicine at the University of Hawaii’s medical school; and UCLA Professor Hiram Beltran-Sanchez, an authority on the demographics of aging — wrote previously about how presidents tend to outlive average Americans. https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-09-25/biden-trump-super-agers-longevity-study I note that the article talks a lot about physical health, not so much about cognitive ability. I would agree that physically, he is in pretty decent shape for a man of 77. However, it is obvious that Biden is significantly "challenged", especially if you compare 2020 Joe Biden to even 2012 Joe Biden. He was notably sharper, more humorous, and able to engage without memory loss even a few years ago. These aren't the funny gaffes that Joe was famous for. There are constant and significant lapses in memory and ability to concentrate that are frankly frightening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 50 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Of course he lies. He's becoming a politician. Before that, he was a classic New York City BS artist. Goes with the territory. Now Joe Biden on the other hand has 47 years of sterling service to the nation. Must be easy to point to several keystone achievements that he has accomplished, such as: a/ achieving energy independence b/ enabling peace in the Middle East c/ reducing unemployment to historic lows for minorities d/ reducing tensions with North Korea e/ realigning American policy towards Asia ...oops, wrong candidate. Sorry. a/ didn't quite achieve energy independence under Obama, still not quite there under Trump. b/ by breaking agreements that limited Iran's production of nuclear material Trump has motivated Iran to produce more enriched uranium. That doesn't enable peace. c/ a big increase in deficit spending resulted in a small boost to the strong economy Trump inherited. Then he mismanaged the pandemic. d/ other than giving Kim Jong Un greater domestic and international credibility, how has Trump reduced tensions with North Korea? e/ by abandoning international agreements such as the TPP which would have contained China, Trump has greatly empowered China. So yeah, he has definitely realigned US policy towards Asia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted November 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Hanaguma said: I note that the article talks a lot about physical health, not so much about cognitive ability. I would agree that physically, he is in pretty decent shape for a man of 77. However, it is obvious that Biden is significantly "challenged", especially if you compare 2020 Joe Biden to even 2012 Joe Biden. He was notably sharper, more humorous, and able to engage without memory loss even a few years ago. These aren't the funny gaffes that Joe was famous for. There are constant and significant lapses in memory and ability to concentrate that are frankly frightening. Frightening? Really? Why not look at the transcripts of the 2nd debate between Biden and Trump and see who is more lucid? Trump has never demonstrated that he is capable of mastering nothing more complicated than soundbites. Biden is able to lucidly discuss with nuance complicated subjects. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Hanaguma said: Of course he lies. He's becoming a politician. Before that, he was a classic New York City BS artist. Goes with the territory. Now Joe Biden on the other hand has 47 years of sterling service to the nation. Must be easy to point to several keystone achievements that he has accomplished, such as: a/ achieving energy independence b/ enabling peace in the Middle East c/ reducing unemployment to historic lows for minorities d/ reducing tensions with North Korea e/ realigning American policy towards Asia ...oops, wrong candidate. Sorry. So before becoming a politican and therefore ly9ing, he was a "classic New York City BS artist". Are you suggesting that BS artists whether from New York City or not, don't lie. Is there such a thing as a BS artist who doesn't lie? Isn't that the essence of being a BS artist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted November 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2020 59 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: AFAIK, none of Trump's kids became crack addicted, none of them impregnated a stripper, none of them dated their dead brother's widow, and none of them left a computer full of damning emails in a shop and forgot about it. None of Trump's kids ever served their country in uniform. But Trump's kids aren't running. The person who ran a fake university, won't reveal his financial arrangements with a money laundering bank, won't reveal his taxes, has blatantly used public office for financial gain, and has ties with countless dodgy figures is running for office. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xylophone Posted November 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: There are constant and significant lapses in memory and ability to concentrate that are frankly frightening. You mean like Covfefe, Yo Sem Mite, does Finland belong to Russia?, dropping a nuclear bomb in the eye of a hurricane to stop it, investigating injecting disinfectant to kill Covid...........and you think these are the ramblings of an intelligent or sane man? He is a nutter! Edited November 1, 2020 by xylophone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 49 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: 1. His signature on the receipt might be a bit of a giveaway. 2. The lack of denial from anyone in the Biden camp about the authenticity of either the computer or the contents of the emails found in it. If someone said they had a hard drive from a computer you got rid of years ago, could you definitely say it was or wasn't yours? If they presented you with thousand of emails they said came from that hard drive and some of them looked legit, could you definitely say that all of them were legit? Most important, does anything in the questionable hard drive provide evidence that Joe Biden has done anything wrong? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: I note that the article talks a lot about physical health, not so much about cognitive ability. I would agree that physically, he is in pretty decent shape for a man of 77. However, it is obvious that Biden is significantly "challenged", especially if you compare 2020 Joe Biden to even 2012 Joe Biden. He was notably sharper, more humorous, and able to engage without memory loss even a few years ago. These aren't the funny gaffes that Joe was famous for. There are constant and significant lapses in memory and ability to concentrate that are frankly frightening. Do you think Trump has never shown lapses and inability to concentrate? https://www.ibtimes.com/donald-trump-experiences-significant-cognitive-decline-reduction-linguistic-2932720 https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/09/does-donald-trump-have-dementia-we-need-know-psychologist-column/3404007002/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 52 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: You're right, it is possible. Once the signature is presented though, the burden shifts. Again, nobody connected with Biden suggests that it is forged. Instead, they cry "smear" and run for cover. The deflection tactics being used by the Biden campaign are a dead giveaway that there is something to the story. They don't have to worry too much about giving the story oxygen though. The media is already smothering it nicely for them. Joe himself takes no questions at any of his events as far as I have heard, the media is kept far from him on those few occasions when he ventures out of his home. The President of the US needs to be vigorous and energetic. I have yet to see that Biden is physically up to the job. The best but is Fox News ‘smothering’ it, because Fox News are so much part of the Biden campaign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChouDoufu Posted November 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The best but is Fox News ‘smothering’ it, because Fox News are so much part of the Biden campaign. hard to follow the story with such a lack of information. just seems weird. why is hunter storing thousands of emails on his laptop? no cloud storage? no bathroom homebrew server? he's supposedly making millions, but has to drop off damaged office equipment for repair himself? no office staff to handle that for him? and he conveniently forgets to pick up this important equipment, and ignores calls from the repair company? convenient. and conveniently just in time. i'd think if this were legit, and the contents were earth-shattering, jules would have released copies to all the newsies. this looks suspiciously similar to the fusion/gps steele dossier, so i'd expect the networks to be circumspect. here's nbc's take: Here's what happened when NBC News tried to report on the alleged Hunter Biden emails Analysis: Trump complains the media isn't reporting on Hunter Biden's emails. But NBC News met obstacles, including Rudy Giuliani, when it tried. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533 Edited November 1, 2020 by ChouDoufu stupid autocorrect! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaJames Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: Betting odds are seldom wrong. They were in 2016: https://www.oddsshark.com/entertainment/us-presidential-odds-2016-futures Paddy Power in the UK got it so wrong that they paid out Clinton bettors in advance and in doing so cost themselves $4 million by the time November 8 was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) Republicans are trying to invalidate about 100.000 cast votes in texas, in a Democratic county. https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/texas-republicans-ask-judge-to-throw-out-100000-cast-ballots-213348687.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_06 Edited November 1, 2020 by stevenl 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xofswen Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, stevenl said: Republicans are trying to invalidate about 100.000 cast votes in texas, in a Democratic county. https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/texas-republicans-ask-judge-to-throw-out-100000-cast-ballots-213348687.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_06 Yes, keeping the election honest is a republican initiative. Voter fraud is rampant these days. Just ask Joe. Biden Brags About Having The “Most Extensive...Voter Fraud Organization” In History.mp4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, xofswen said: Yes, keeping the election honest is a republican initiative. Voter fraud is rampant these days. Just ask Joe. Biden Brags About Having The “Most Extensive...Voter Fraud Organization” In History.mp4 No. Suppressing votes is the only way republicans win. You've posted an obvious gaffe. Biden has been doing gaffes all his political life. That's baked in. You know what he really meant and also that video was very short so possibly revealing context was intentionally edited out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Something to consider. For the purposes of this forum, the "campaigning" is basically long over. Except for maybe a few people who are in the U.S. now and planning to vote on election day or in the last days of early in person voting in their states (and also drop boxes if available). It's too late to mail in a ballot in the U.S. and certainly from Thailand. Not that these discussions change anyone's mind. Just keeping it real. We're basically waiting for results now and it might be a very long wait! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadWarrior371 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, xofswen said: Yes, keeping the election honest is a republican initiative. Voter fraud is rampant these days. Just ask Joe. Geez, Biden may go down as the least articulate candidate in history. Not helping him at the polls. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, RoadWarrior371 said: Geez, Biden may go down as the least articulate candidate in history. Not helping him at the polls. And you know this how? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, xofswen said: Yes, keeping the election honest is a republican initiative. Voter fraud is rampant these days. Just ask Joe. Biden Brags About Having The “Most Extensive...Voter Fraud Organization” In History.mp4 If the Republicans had been trying to keep the election honest, they would have protested against the drive by voting before it began. Instead they waited until it was over. This is clearly an attempt to slash the Democratic vote. The Republicans got lucky in that they drew an extremely biased judge for the first round of appeals. But the actual law passed by the state legislature is against them. It specifically authorizes the procedure that Harris County follows. So it should fail somewhere up the ladder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Whatever, winning or losing, it will be interesting to see how many voters will even prefer to vote for Mr. Biden than for Mr. Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, luckyluke said: Whatever, winning or losing, it will be interesting to see how many voters will even prefer to vote for Mr. Biden than for Mr. Trump. Definitely millions more but that wasn't enough for HRC to win last time, so we're all on edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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placeholder Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 7 hours ago, xofswen said: Yes, keeping the election honest is a republican initiative. Voter fraud is rampant these days. Just ask Joe. Biden Brags About Having The “Most Extensive...Voter Fraud Organization” In History.mp4 Texas’ top court denies a G.O.P. push to throw out over 120,000 votes; a federal case is pending. The Texas Supreme Court denied an effort by Republicans to throw out more than 120,000 votes that had already been cast at drive-through locations in Harris County, leaving Republicans’ only remaining option at the federal level. The ruling from the court came without comment. The effort to get rid of the votes from largely Democratic Harris County now hinges on a nearly identical effort at the federal level, where a judge has called an election-eve hearing for Monday. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/01/us/trump-biden-election?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage#texas-top-court-denies-a-gop-push-to-throw-out-over-120000-votes-a-federal-case-is-pending 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacherclaire Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) MAGA - Make America Good Again. Edited November 1, 2020 by teacherclaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted November 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, teacherclaire said: MAGA MAGA. 225,000 dead Americans would agree with you. Time to make America great again. Dump Trump. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacherclaire Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: 225,000 dead Americans would agree with you. Time to make America great again. Dump Trump. But didn't he say that it wasn't serious, a hoax? OMG....... I feel sorry for each one of them having such an ( I better not write it) Presi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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